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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>,
	Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 15:08:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FFCCB1ED-3CB4-4F97-9B3B-ADF10F2FE730@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79EC8CB2-0912-4D66-9FA3-990E9C38C281@gmail.com>

Hi Jonathan,


> On Sep 28, 2023, at 14:33, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 28 Sep, 2023, at 3:15 pm, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>> This promises even better performance for loads like cake than the already pretty nifty pi4B
> 
> Well, increased computing performance is always welcome - but as I've said before, in most cases I don't think CPU performance is the limiting factor for CAKE.
> 
> When the CPU load goes up as networking throughput reaches the physical limit of the interface (or the I/O subsystem), what you're seeing is the CPU just spinning its wheels while waiting for a mutex to unblock.  Spinning faster doesn't make the mutex unblock sooner!

	[SM] I think that the improvements of cache and memory hierarchy and throughput will be helpful, currently some people report odd issues with rpi4Bs depending on how many and which cores are used, I hope that the rpi5 ameliorates these issues. The gigabit ethernet adapter was already connected well to the SoC starting with the rpi4 when they ditched the USB2 bus used by earlier pis to connect the ethernet. But I agree it will require real benchmarks to see if the newer design truly delivers more cake performance and if yes, how much more. (And I also note that the rpi4B is not doing badly at 1 Gbps ethernet either, at least for "normal" numbers of parallel flows.
	Regarding a full dual (or triple) interface router, I have hopes that a PCIe connected NIC might be generally better than a USB3 dongle (even though USB3 on paper has plenty capacity for gigabit ethernet).

Regards
	Sebastian

P.S.: I am tempted, but will likely wait until they are available in quantity and hope that the street price comes down a bit before getting one ;)



> 
> - Jonathan Morton


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-28 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-18  1:05 Dave Taht
2023-09-18  1:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-18 16:57 ` David P. Reed
2023-09-18 19:50 ` dave seddon
2023-09-18 20:24   ` David P. Reed
2023-09-18 22:07     ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-28 11:44       ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-28 12:15         ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 12:33           ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-28 12:56             ` David Lang
2023-09-28 13:08             ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2023-09-28 13:19               ` David Lang
2023-09-28 13:27                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-13 15:59                   ` dave seddon
2023-10-13 17:25                     ` dave seddon
2023-10-15 15:11                       ` dave seddon
2023-10-15 15:52                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-15 16:24                           ` dave seddon
2023-10-15 20:29                             ` David P. Reed
2023-10-16  3:52                               ` Jonathan Morton
2023-10-15 15:53                         ` Dave Taht
2023-10-23 20:31                         ` dave seddon
2023-10-23 20:35                           ` dave seddon
2023-10-24 16:27                           ` dave seddon
2023-10-24 21:35                             ` dave seddon
2023-10-24 22:06                               ` Dave Taht
2023-09-18 22:13   ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-18 22:52     ` dave seddon
2023-09-18 23:08       ` Jonathan Morton

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