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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: moeller0 <moeller0@gmx.de>,
	cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Proposing COBALT
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 06:41:01 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1605200638530.1578@nftneq.ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A714A489-BA53-4FCF-BECC-1C092619C556@gmail.com>

On Fri, 20 May 2016, Jonathan Morton wrote:

> Normal traffic does not include large numbers of fragmented packets (I would 
> expect a mere handful from certain one-shot request-response protocols which 
> can produce large responses), so it is better to shunt them to a single queue 
> per host-pair.

I don't agree with this.

Normal traffic on a well setup network should not include large numbers of 
fragmented packets. But I have seen too many networks that fragment almost 
everything as a result of there being a hop that goes through one or more 
tunneling layers that lower the effective MTU (and no, path mtu discovery does 
not always work)

David Lang

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-20 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-20 10:04 Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 11:37 ` moeller0
2016-05-20 12:18   ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 13:22     ` moeller0
2016-05-20 14:36       ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 16:03         ` David Lang
2016-05-20 17:31           ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 16:37         ` Luis E. Garcia
2016-05-20 16:43           ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 16:55             ` Luis E. Garcia
2016-05-23 18:30             ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-23 19:11               ` Luis E. Garcia
2016-05-24 13:47               ` [Cake] [Codel] " Jeff Weeks
2016-05-24 14:07                 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-24 15:52                   ` Dave Täht
2016-05-24 15:56                     ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-24 16:02                       ` Dave Taht
2016-05-25  6:40                         ` Loganaden Velvindron
2016-05-25 12:00                         ` Benjamin Cronce
2016-05-26 12:33                     ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-03 19:09                       ` Noah Causin
2016-06-03 19:34                         ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-04  1:01                           ` Andrew McGregor
2016-06-04  6:23                             ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-04 13:55                             ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-04 14:01                               ` moeller0
2016-06-04 14:16                                 ` Vincent Frentzel
2016-06-04 14:16                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-04 15:03                                   ` moeller0
2016-06-04 17:10                               ` Noah Causin
2016-06-04 17:49                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-04 19:55                                   ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-04 20:56                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-27  3:56                                     ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-27  7:59                                       ` moeller0
2016-06-27 15:18                                       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-06-28  2:51                                         ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-28  8:40                                           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-06-28 15:33                                             ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-28 17:37                                               ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-06-29 15:22                                                 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-06-30  8:16                                                   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-06-28 15:44                                             ` Dave Taht
2016-05-20 13:41     ` David Lang [this message]
2016-05-20 13:46       ` [Cake] " moeller0
2016-05-20 14:04         ` David Lang
2016-05-20 15:12           ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 16:05             ` David Lang
2016-05-20 17:06               ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 16:20             ` [Cake] [Codel] " Rick Jones
2016-05-20 16:35               ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 17:01                 ` Rick Jones
2016-05-20 17:07                   ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 17:21                     ` Rick Jones
2016-05-20 17:26                     ` David Lang
2016-05-20 17:33                       ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-20 14:09       ` [Cake] " Jonathan Morton

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