From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (lang.hm [66.167.227.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B72473CB35 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id w3IJrfoQ010300; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:53:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Jonathan Morton cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Toke_H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <5BD20E12-2408-4393-8560-3FDA52D86DB3@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <87vacq419h.fsf@toke.dk> <874lk9533l.fsf@toke.dk> <87604o3get.fsf@toke.dk> <578552B2-5127-451A-AFE8-93AE9BB07368@gmail.com> <87r2nc1taq.fsf@toke.dk> <0BB8B1FD-6A00-49D6-806E-794BD53A449F@gmx.de> <3457DD8E-0292-4802-BD1E-B37771DCADA2@gmail.com> <87fu3s1om2.fsf@toke.dk> <5BD20E12-2408-4393-8560-3FDA52D86DB3@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Cake] A few puzzling Cake results X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:53:45 -0000 On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, Jonathan Morton wrote: > I'm saying that there's a tradeoff between intra-flow induced latency and packet loss, and I've chosen 4 MTUs as the operating point. Is there a reason for picking 4 MTUs vs 2 MTUs vs 2 packets, etc?