From: "Dave Täht" <dave@taht.net>
To: Neil Shepperd <nshepperd@gmail.com>, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] cake for net-next 4.8
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:10:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce538d93-1013-cc66-881e-15dcea5e606e@taht.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFnvbVPhuipCudvp8GSWyHeo35zhKoWbVF-hnbeP=EP-BVD5Qg@mail.gmail.com>
On 9/30/16 1:37 PM, Neil Shepperd wrote:
> Disabling ipv6 (at least in the mail server, in outgoing direction) is
> probably the easiest option...
It looks like the simplest thing I could do to allow inbound while
stopping outbound ipv6 would be to:
/etc/postfix/main.cf:
smtp_bind_address6 = ::1
> I see on most messages here DKIM-Signature headers apparently from
> gmail: "v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com
> <http://gmail.com>; s=20120113;". These signatures are failing because
> of the added message footer. No sign of a DKIM-Signature
> for lists.bufferbloat.net <http://lists.bufferbloat.net>. You'd need to
> set that up in the list MTA.
Honestly my "email-fu" has declined considerably in recent years.
Despite the apparent simplicity of this idea, my brain just crashed
multiple times on setting it up with postfix + mailman 2.
And thank you for poking so deeply into this, I was A) really annoyed by
the bloat-list-as-spam thing and B) clueless.
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 at 15:42 Dave Täht <dave@taht.net
> <mailto:dave@taht.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/30/16 1:02 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > Neil Shepperd <nshepperd@gmail.com <mailto:nshepperd@gmail.com>>
> writes:
> >
> >> I think I have now accumulated enough spam/nonspam classified emails
> >> to make a statistically signification observation: it seems like all
> >> emails classified as spam from these lists were send from ipv6:
> >>
> >> SPF: PASS with IP 2600:3c03:0:0:f03c:91ff:fe61:86ce
> >>
> >> All emails from bufferbloat.net <http://bufferbloat.net> lists
> are failing DKIM (because of the
> >> mailing list footer breaking the DKIM signature) which might be worth
> >> fixing, and failing DMARC because all mailing lists fails DMARC
> >> (however google does not have a strict DMARC policy so that shouldn't
> >> matter, I hope).
> >>
> >> By the way, it's not just you, either. I have emails from others on
> >> these lists in my spam folder.
> >>
> >> The distinguishing factor seems to be whether the email was sent from
> >> the lists.bufferbloat.net <http://lists.bufferbloat.net> ipv6
> address. Unless this address
> >> corresponds to some kind of tunnel broker possibly also used by
> >> spammers, I can only assume this is some kind of bug (after all, it
> >> was spf validated so the address shouldn't matter at that point?).
> >
> > Indeed, gmail requires extra measures for IPv6:
> > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126 (scroll down to
> "Additional
> > guidelines for IPv6").
> >
> > Fixing DKIM might be worthwhile :)
>
> But it passes the spf check?? And the reverse lookup is correct.
>
> How about I just disable ipv6?
>
> Have no idea why dkim doesn't work.
>
> >
> > -Toke
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> >
> _______________________________________________
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-30 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-25 18:30 Dave Taht
2016-09-27 14:38 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-09-27 16:04 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-27 16:13 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-09-29 23:22 ` Neil Shepperd
2016-09-30 8:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-30 13:08 ` Neil Shepperd
2016-09-30 19:42 ` Dave Täht
2016-09-30 20:37 ` Neil Shepperd
2016-09-30 21:10 ` Dave Täht [this message]
2016-10-03 21:17 ` Neil Shepperd
2016-10-04 6:33 ` Henning Rogge
2016-10-04 16:09 ` Dave Täht
2016-10-20 5:56 ` Neil Shepperd
2016-09-27 17:52 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-09-27 18:18 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-27 18:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-09-27 19:29 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-27 19:54 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-09-28 23:26 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-28 23:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-09-29 20:43 ` Andrew Shewmaker
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