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From: Andy Furniss <adf.lists@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] low bandwidth default params best effort vs voice latency.
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:43:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e5b0fd81-214e-c80d-bfc4-942578da6ea5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6Mw_E326x7mnA3zkL3K+zmmWW-C6gnROnCy0_OW9XGvg@mail.gmail.com>

Dave Taht wrote:
> One thing the original sqm-scripts did (with fq_codel) was explicitly
> deprioritize ping with a filter.
>
> I had written  in my original "wondershaper must die" rant how stupid
> it was to prioritize ping upwards  to "impress your friends" - as that
> was the case in many, many a wshaper implementation I'd seen.
>
> I only just now noticed that rant does not have the images inline.
> "Oh, man, ping's prioritized:"
>
> https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/attachments/131229050304_wshaper-800-220.svg
>
> As for explicit depriorization, well, I took a lot of flack from some
> ietfers about lowering it below best effort, and I felt the additional
> classification needed was excessive for cake, directly. Some OSes
> already do mark it with a background class.  I still think it's a good
> idea as it makes ping floods against (for example) your entire 10.
> network (which happened to me under worm attack once) - vanish.

Yea, fair point, but in this case it's just a simulation tool as I don't
know how to get delay times from a udp stream.

I still think cs4 should go to voice on diffserv3 as it does on diffserv4.

Another observation with flent udp_flood, I notice that 
flent-london.bufferbloat.net
is tcp only, is this intended? The test still works, despite the port
unreachables coming back, just no bandwidth reading.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-05 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-04 18:21 Andy Furniss
2017-03-04 18:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-04 19:28   ` Andy Furniss
2017-03-04 20:27 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-04 23:05   ` Dave Taht
2017-03-05 12:43     ` Andy Furniss [this message]
2017-03-05 12:37   ` Andy Furniss

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