From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from resdmta-a1p-077302.sys.comcast.net (resdmta-a1p-077302.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fd01:2bb4::c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25D583B29E for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 13:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from resomta-a1p-076786.sys.comcast.net ([96.103.145.235]) by resdmta-a1p-077302.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id hZw9olzvZkLAPhaCzoAs1Y; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 17:35:25 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20211018a; t=1665336925; bh=BjN4JyoCyuoC2OfBuIYvphCFEc4VZUDYY90FLxI1a1s=; h=Received:Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject: To:From:Content-Type; b=sYbr6hpa/ZK5+V547pKFDiLzO4/1qBQcBZ+dEunLF83jsv4HlefmxOz6osG9da3+x UGZQQzEVoKE6PoGo4P7P3hXGT79YGWPdxUzEBfX9CZS0tpr2muundUZh/X7A4ES4Ho 2DqYr6bdQeXAeiMUh2uqMGZf1jj4itQC4CEyzjPqybkfXQq0yWeUlfVOFhV6qKlY5g aT/JtBdIq3Sx+m2itRfw7PKC6/xp1E332F210i15wEl9chg6Ouy7hjZAh9JxRnN47M vLWuZhhXLTZwWRGlXhTP8rAGOjQPNkpru/3tboecqq1hXMOy4+9g83/J+M04gd6t6Z GPqRgYeWdRpLg== Received: from home.sewingwitch.com ([98.35.153.117]) by resomta-a1p-076786.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id haCwoeKLWSRephaCxoOJgw; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 17:35:24 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrfeejuddgudduiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucevohhmtggrshhtqdftvghsihdpqfgfvfdppffquffrtefokffrnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecunecujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvfhfhjggtgfesthejredttdefjeenucfhrhhomhepmfgvnhhnvghthhcurfhorhhtvghruceoshhhihhvrgesshgvfihinhhgfihithgthhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudfgffekuefgieejfffgvdejkeefheeileegudetvefhvefhueduieevffegjeetnecukfhppeelkedrfeehrdduheefrdduudejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghlohephhhomhgvrdhsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmpdhinhgvthepleekrdefhedrudehfedruddujedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehshhhivhgrsehsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtoheptggrkhgvsehlihhsthhsrdgsuhhffhgvrhgslhhorghtrdhnvght X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0.00;st=legit Received: from [10.96.7.39] ([10.96.7.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by home.sewingwitch.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 299HZJTv013717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 10:35:19 -0700 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 home.sewingwitch.com 299HZJTv013717 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sewingwitch.com; s=default; t=1665336920; bh=BjN4JyoCyuoC2OfBuIYvphCFEc4VZUDYY90FLxI1a1s=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=soP2ZpbbYJ977G9Gvg07UMesO4O5NWCokROG1KLIseyeMxiemR8FMJneOVcmsfgL1 fnYdwQWGTm0AiV8YT+/TnevIxS+Sa4wPmApH4uhFFN0+mqOyHJmXC+srbM6VeXRCrW xT05rkMUxosqxhnlTTwbJSWNm21A8SPNX7/sgC3s= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 10:35:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.3.2 To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: Content-Language: en-US From: Kenneth Porter In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.96.0.132 Subject: Re: [Cake] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 17:35:26 -0000 The video comments are interesting. Some pushback against blindly turning on SQM. For example, using Cake might not be good on an older router with a gutless CPU and FQ-CoDel might be the better choice. It might be useful to accumulate all the objections there and create a wiki page responding to them in an organized way.