Re: [Cake] cake for net-next 4.8

["Dave Täht" <dave@taht.net>]

On 10/3/16 2:17 PM, Neil Shepperd wrote:
> Gmail spam team got back to me; they have apparently "fixed the
> problem", which I guess means messages here should stop being marked as
> spam soon. Because gmail's spam filters are top secret business, I
> couldn't tell you anything else :)

It is great to have friends (in places high and low). Thank you!

That said, I almost, but not quite, got the dkim stuff working the other
day - not that I can intuit that was the source of the problem!

> 
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 at 17:10 Dave Täht <dave@taht.net
> <mailto:dave@taht.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On 9/30/16 1:37 PM, Neil Shepperd wrote:
>     > Disabling ipv6 (at least in the mail server, in outgoing direction) is
>     > probably the easiest option...
> 
>     It looks like the simplest thing I could do to allow inbound while
>     stopping outbound ipv6 would be to:
> 
>     /etc/postfix/main.cf <http://main.cf>:
>         smtp_bind_address6 = ::1
> 
> 
>     > I see on most messages here DKIM-Signature headers apparently from
>     > gmail: "v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com
>     <http://gmail.com>
>     > <http://gmail.com>; s=20120113;". These signatures are failing because
>     > of the added message footer. No sign of a DKIM-Signature
>     > for lists.bufferbloat.net <http://lists.bufferbloat.net>
>     <http://lists.bufferbloat.net>. You'd need to
>     > set that up in the list MTA.
> 
>     Honestly my "email-fu" has declined considerably in recent years.
>     Despite the apparent simplicity of this idea, my brain just crashed
>     multiple times on setting it up with postfix + mailman 2.
> 
>     And thank you for poking so deeply into this, I was A) really annoyed by
>     the bloat-list-as-spam thing and B) clueless.
> 
>     > On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 at 15:42 Dave Täht <dave@taht.net
>     <mailto:dave@taht.net>
>     > <mailto:dave@taht.net <mailto:dave@taht.net>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 9/30/16 1:02 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>     >     > Neil Shepperd <nshepperd@gmail.com
>     <mailto:nshepperd@gmail.com> <mailto:nshepperd@gmail.com
>     <mailto:nshepperd@gmail.com>>>
>     >     writes:
>     >     >
>     >     >> I think I have now accumulated enough spam/nonspam
>     classified emails
>     >     >> to make a statistically signification observation: it seems
>     like all
>     >     >> emails classified as spam from these lists were send from ipv6:
>     >     >>
>     >     >> SPF: PASS with IP 2600:3c03:0:0:f03c:91ff:fe61:86ce
>     >     >>
>     >     >> All emails from bufferbloat.net <http://bufferbloat.net>
>     <http://bufferbloat.net> lists
>     >     are failing DKIM (because of the
>     >     >> mailing list footer breaking the DKIM signature) which
>     might be worth
>     >     >> fixing, and failing DMARC because all mailing lists fails DMARC
>     >     >> (however google does not have a strict DMARC policy so that
>     shouldn't
>     >     >> matter, I hope).
>     >     >>
>     >     >> By the way, it's not just you, either. I have emails from
>     others on
>     >     >> these lists in my spam folder.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> The distinguishing factor seems to be whether the email was
>     sent from
>     >     >> the lists.bufferbloat.net <http://lists.bufferbloat.net>
>     <http://lists.bufferbloat.net> ipv6
>     >     address. Unless this address
>     >     >> corresponds to some kind of tunnel broker possibly also used by
>     >     >> spammers, I can only assume this is some kind of bug (after
>     all, it
>     >     >> was spf validated so the address shouldn't matter at that
>     point?).
>     >     >
>     >     > Indeed, gmail requires extra measures for IPv6:
>     >     > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126 (scroll down to
>     >     "Additional
>     >     > guidelines for IPv6").
>     >     >
>     >     > Fixing DKIM might be worthwhile :)
>     >
>     >     But it passes the spf check?? And the reverse lookup is correct.
>     >
>     >     How about I just disable ipv6?
>     >
>     >     Have no idea why dkim doesn't work.
>     >
>     >     >
>     >     > -Toke
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