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In my case I use cake > on a VLAN sub-interface that happens to have a hard_header_len of 18 > after the 802.1q tag, and then use the docsis keyword to more > explicitly configure the overhead in case I move to an untagged > interface in the future. tc -s qdisc can't tell the difference and > reports 'raw mpu 64' rather than 'overhead 18 mpu 64'. The almost reality is that you could do whatever you want with the LEDE patch that adds cake awareness to iproute2's tc. The challenge comes in keeping it up to date with whatever lands in 'cake master' and 'cake aware tc master' I say almost reality because some on the LEDE committers list question things (rightly) if you're not pointing at master. For these reasons (and others) I've been reluctant to point LEDE cake at the cobalt branch so the 'in test' features of cobalt (and matching tc) are not being exercised there (ingress mode, "Voice tin traffic sometimes delayed by more than one bulk packet in best effort" 'solution' except it doesn't appear to have solved it) Either the cobalt branch features need to get into master (and someone update the LEDE cake & iproute2 packages) OR someone needs to take the step to point LEDE cake at cobalt (and update the packages etc etc) Cake on LEDE is currently without a maintainer and the cake list & repo has been incredibly quiet for the past 4+ months.