From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBA723B2A4; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-laptop (unknown [10.2.0.162]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6E0F4521; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@dlang-laptop To: Michael Richardson cc: David Lang , Dave Taht , Cake List , bloat In-Reply-To: <10241.1618866642@localhost> Message-ID: References: <10241.1618866642@localhost> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] starlink testing X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 21:43:00 -0000 I've watched those, and it's PoE communication to the dish, and there is a processor on the dish with a serial console. I haven't seen any follow-ups where anyone has gotten a login to the dish or has sniffed the traffic between the dish and the router. I haven't seen anything that would show that the router has (or doesn't have) any awareness of the satellite network. That's why I was asking about sniffing between the devices to see what's happening there. David Lang On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, Michael Richardson wrote: > David Lang wrote: > > are you able to sniff between the router and the dish? I'm curious how much > > of the smarts is in the dish vs the router. My hope is that the router is > > just a conventional router with the satellite network smarts in the dish. > > No. > See the teardowns, such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QudtSo5tpLk > It's a huge synthetic antenna. It's openwrt though. > >