From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f178.google.com (mail-qc0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E96B21F196 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id i8so9706673qcq.9 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:37:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=6KyB+n17DD+8YVdyt1kjSJn608xLPlEkS9JfOdL/PE8=; b=J7FtjEIncSqU78/w7Eo+B5EmvngBPka/9sgjYNEAzMcuiGIRIH+kvFGzOTlPygwA65 vETxPFMBu1zWA7ZRlIk1b02r9LwTTtmntU9CC0BxB5QuOzHzpIJcTKzKz4D7USrRPrrS PMpdtfMlYwWJB5c4ClS3HFsztA6YrcMxHqdX3hUGNiYQsDMIXr/8pkCECpr32koxKNVv f3zUOMdKP03fTINaL7+b2NvOPFGgjA7ThyQA4yphsg8HaowzylQYblCJR6rwGbf00l/O JJqSK8XgniRrdLSD1MI9rVy7A4baekPAXh76oHYFU3ais8EEnjzk2disPp2HDb4GZUDa q97g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkWjmvGNA6fMUS5f7t0Fq2SZ7TyfVN2EcYkUQ+DYqMa7QDFOw6UIeys/mYIWMudycbnMiMB X-Received: by 10.140.43.69 with SMTP id d63mr18516722qga.45.1395232677823; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RiepD630 (pool-108-49-217-37.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [108.49.217.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b30sm30681303qge.21.2014.03.19.05.37.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Frits Riep" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:37:53 -0400 Message-ID: <00ef01cf4370$0c5bba90$25132fb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F0_01CF434E.854A1A90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac9DOW5QvfE9g6FeQ+amawKX9qNk3gALsuEg Content-Language: en-us x-vipre-scanned: 16F234CE006B8C16F2361B Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] Verizon FIOS - How to use CeroWRT directly with interactive TV X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:37:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01CF434E.854A1A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Verizon FIOS internet, and also use the interactive TV and phone services using my WNDR-3800 with CeroWRT. . I have a 75 Mb/s down / 25 Mb/s up residential service in Lexington MA . I have an WNDR3800 running CeroWRT 3.10.24-8 and it is directly connected to the ONT (Optical Network Terminator), and no Verizon Router. . To get the interactive TV (guide, multi room dvr, and video on demand) you need to bridge the ethernet LAN of the router to the TV Coax in order to control the settop box and send the video content from the internet to the settop box. . The easiest way to bridge the Ethernet network to the Coax is to use a MoCA bridge (Media Over Coax Alliance). . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance . D-link, Actiontec, and Netgear offer these MoCA bridges and they are under $100. You can run them with the factory defaults in this mode (lan mode). There is also a WAN mode if you want to use the COAX to the WAN interface of the router which is useful if you only have COAX wiring in your home and you want to locate your router in a different location from the ONT Ethernet jack. . You need one MoCA bridge to interconnect the Coax to the standard twisted pair Lan connection on your router. . The working topology is Verizon ONT Ethernet port to WAN interface on CeroWRT router, Moca Bridge in one of the LAN interfaces. . Verizon residential service provides one public IP via DHCP, and this IP is bound to the MAC address of the router (which is also typical of residential services of cable providers such as Comcast). . To successfully connect the new router (and get a DHCP address), you need to either clone the MAC address of the Verizon supplied router or call Verizon and have them break the DHCP lease from their end. I have successfully been running versions of CeroWRT for about six months, and very much appreciate the great work to conquer Bufferbloat. I have had no issues on the WNDR-3800 getting full throughput of up to 80 mb/s down, 30 mb/s up using speedtest.net (with speed throttling off. The throughput and latency results are excellent when I set the speed throttling to 75 down / 25 up, per speedtest.net, pingtest.net and ICSI Netalyzr even on wireless. Running a ping test in command prompt also shows very low latency even when running a full speedtest both up and down on both a wired or wireless connection. Thanks for the great work being done. I am using this for our home network. Should I update to the latest version 3.10.32-10 or is there a new stable in the near future? Thanks, Frits Riep Ekaru, LLC -----Original Message----- From: cerowrt-devel-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net [mailto:cerowrt-devel-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of cerowrt-devel-request@lists.bufferbloat.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:58 AM To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 28, Issue 19 Send Cerowrt-devel mailing list submissions to cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cerowrt-devel-request@lists.bufferbloat.net You can reach the person managing the list at cerowrt-devel-owner@lists.bufferbloat.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cerowrt-devel digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Problem with Verizon fios router (Ernesto Elias) 2. Re: Problem with Verizon fios router (Dave Taht) 3. Re: Problem with Verizon fios router (Stephen Hemminger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:34:10 -0400 From: Ernesto Elias < ernestogelias@gmail.com> To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router Message-ID: < CAAMzHDbd44s4_n_Yy6YwFFG1n4oXnnDtHR_O_i-U=_wLvM=92w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello everyone I'm having trouble with the actiontec router supplied by Verizon fios, since I have the bundle service of TV and Internet I need the fios router to be able to watch on demand but I ran into a problem. It's that when I made the ont box go Ethernet to be able to use my wndr3800 running cerowrt on it to reduce buffer bloat and so I plugged an Ethernet cable to one of the Lan port of the wndr3800 to the WAN port of the actiontec it would seem that the set top boxes don't get a signal and when I click on the remote to check diagnostic it says that the external network is down and we'll I have question is there anything I have to do special for the actiontec to get Internet connection to the stb? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/attachments/20140319/7 9ce1c16/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:43:05 -0700 From: Dave Taht < dave.taht@gmail.com> To: Ernesto Elias < ernestogelias@gmail.com> Cc: " cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" < cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router Message-ID: < CAA93jw6R6Qf8q7-7j3QEfMkShZwW3ySDE825bgWWx_49258oog@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The wan port of cero should be plugged into the the lan port of the actiontec, not the reverse. You probably want to configure the actiontec as a bridge in this instance if it isn't already. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Ernesto Elias < ernestogelias@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone I'm having trouble with the actiontec router supplied > by Verizon fios, since I have the bundle service of TV and Internet I > need the fios router to be able to watch on demand but I ran into a > problem. It's that when I made the ont box go Ethernet to be able to > use my wndr3800 running cerowrt on it to reduce buffer bloat and so I > plugged an Ethernet cable to one of the Lan port of the wndr3800 to > the WAN port of the actiontec it would seem that the set top boxes > don't get a signal and when I click on the remote to check diagnostic > it says that the external network is down and we'll I have question is > there anything I have to do special for the actiontec to get Internet connection to the stb? > > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > -- Dave T?ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:57:27 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger < stephen@networkplumber.org> To: Dave Taht < dave.taht@gmail.com> Cc: Ernesto Elias < ernestogelias@gmail.com>, " cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" < cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router Message-ID: < 20140318225727.38ed26c3@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It is rather complex, you have to make the FIOS router act as a double bridge. 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I have = a Verizon FIOS internet, and also use the interactive TV and phone = services using my WNDR-3800 with CeroWRT.

 

·         = I have a 75 Mb/s down / 25 Mb/s up = residential service in Lexington MA

·         = I have an WNDR3800 running CeroWRT = 3.10.24-8 and it is directly connected to the ONT (Optical Network = Terminator), and no Verizon Router.

·         = To get the interactive TV (guide, multi = room dvr, and video on demand) you need to bridge the ethernet LAN of = the router to the TV Coax in order to control the settop box and send = the video content from the internet to the settop box.

·         = The easiest way to bridge the Ethernet = network to the Coax is to use a MoCA bridge (Media Over Coax = Alliance).

·         = http:= //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance

<= p class=3DMsoPlainText = style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'>·         = D-link, Actiontec, and Netgear offer = these MoCA bridges and they are under $100.  You can run them with = the factory defaults in this mode (lan mode).  There is also a WAN = mode if you want to use the COAX to the WAN interface of the router = which is useful if you only have COAX wiring in your home and you want = to locate your router in a different location from the ONT Ethernet = jack.

·         = You need one MoCA bridge to interconnect = the Coax to the standard twisted pair Lan connection on your = router.

·         = The working topology is Verizon ONT = Ethernet port to WAN interface on CeroWRT router, Moca Bridge in one of = the LAN interfaces.

·         = Verizon residential service provides one = public IP via DHCP, and this IP is bound to the MAC address of the = router (which is also typical of residential services of cable providers = such as Comcast).

·         = To successfully connect the new router = (and get a DHCP address), you need to either clone the MAC address of = the Verizon supplied router or call Verizon and have them break the DHCP = lease from their end.

 

I have = successfully been running versions of CeroWRT for about six months, and = very much appreciate the great work to conquer Bufferbloat.  =

 

I have had no issues on the WNDR-3800 getting full = throughput of up to 80 mb/s down, 30 mb/s up using speedtest.net (with = speed throttling off. The throughput and latency results are excellent = when I set the speed throttling to 75 down / 25 up, per speedtest.net, = pingtest.net and  ICSI Netalyzr = even on wireless.  Running a ping test in command prompt also shows = very low latency even when running a full speedtest both up and down on = both a wired or wireless connection.

 

Thanks = for the great work being done.  I am using this for our home = network.  Should I update to the latest version 3.10.32-10 or is = there a new stable in the near future?

 

Thanks,

 

Frits = Riep

Ekaru, LLC

 

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:34:10 = -0400

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Hello = everyone I'm having trouble with the actiontec router supplied by = Verizon fios, since I have the bundle service of TV and Internet I need = the fios router to be able to watch on demand but I ran into a problem. = It's that when I made the ont box go Ethernet to be able to use my = wndr3800 running cerowrt on it to reduce buffer bloat and so I plugged = an Ethernet cable to one of the Lan port of the wndr3800 to the WAN port = of the actiontec it would seem that the set top boxes don't get a signal = and when I click on the remote to check diagnostic it says that the = external network is down and we'll I have question is there anything I = have to do special for the actiontec to get Internet connection to the = stb?

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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>

To: Ernesto Elias <ernestogelias@gmail.com>

Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.buffe= rbloat.net"

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The = wan port of cero should be plugged into the the lan port of the = actiontec, not the reverse.

 

You = probably want to configure the actiontec as a bridge in this instance if = it isn't already.

 

On = Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Ernesto Elias <ernestogelias@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello = everyone I'm having trouble with the actiontec router supplied =

> by Verizon fios, since I = have the bundle service of TV and Internet I

> need the fios router to be able to watch on = demand but I ran into a

> = problem. It's that when I made the ont box go Ethernet to be able to =

> use my wndr3800 running = cerowrt on it to reduce buffer bloat and so I

> plugged an Ethernet cable to one of the Lan = port of the wndr3800 to

> the = WAN port of the actiontec it would seem that the set top boxes =

> don't get a signal and when = I click on the remote to check diagnostic

> it says that the external network is down and = we'll I have question is

> = there anything I have to do special for the actiontec to get Internet = connection to the stb?

> 

> 

> = _______________________________________________

> Cerowrt-devel mailing list

> Cerowrt-devel@lists.buffe= rbloat.net

> https://lists.bufferbloat= .net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

> 

 

 

 

--

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Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/c= erowrt/subscribe.html

 

 

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:57:27 = -0700

From: Stephen Hemminger = <stephen@networkplumber.or= g>

To: Dave Taht = <dave.taht@gmail.com>

Cc: Ernesto Elias <ernestogelias@gmail.com>,

      "cerowrt-devel@lists.buffe= rbloat.net"

      <cerowrt-devel@lists.buffe= rbloat.net>

Subject: = Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router

Message-ID: <20140318225727.38ed26c3@n= ehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>

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It is = rather complex, you have to make the FIOS router act as a double = bridge.

One bridge passes traffic = from outside via COAX (ONT) to one RJ45 (CAT5) to WDR3800 Other bridge = passes traffic from another WDR3800 port back to coax network to set top = box

 

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