From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr2.cc.vt.edu (omr2.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8400:0:33:fb76:806e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 197AB3CB35 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mr4.cc.vt.edu (mr4.cc.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8300:0:7b:e2b1:6a29]) by omr2.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w9JJ9nAw028473 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:09:49 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f200.google.com (mail-qk1-f200.google.com [209.85.222.200]) by mr4.cc.vt.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w9JJ9i6G011968 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:09:49 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f200.google.com with SMTP id v198-v6so36455966qka.16 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:09:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; bh=auH6iV3Z7uSi65AGvKnf6mieNLh1bCr72uwC5UpMw68=; b=DDp0kLNkJBdO/T2ZlF19trVkGnzyW0zslIffv2+DV9o+g9XqPNm0OvR56EgiUu2OLV 7XlzJlcscEVLQNJYLFfdKy0znZ+BqwNCSk2GjONor+LiARYgaL5sU1T88LY9UJPQSzw6 DPPOjfhIDg2j/3PZ326N2qU+UlG3MlDptXX874qTiuZKjuwKgsi6yfv2izz0mnI8VQrg oOCUYQ2spbBe4sna+GLZFB4SXMRKGmMgUQAXgAjM42NHuF7Nf0ezF33MhC78KUX0QKqV +NLHP3TA8eJzYFe8zSB+ZFa7WzmtauRW4DqtaB8Ssd6fcZcJiWJKdFGs2GJQnMo3VpbA Ln6w== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog1tbrf4Z7VyTKhY+bow+fCEu6iLAC7IegT47AntFMxznYsFhV0 ogQbtQx711+Dq61y3WVBqf6xelivGR3TahqS7LF6f/HQWaApoT+iEpKUTFA1t2YeN1a2xq+94DP U2LQSpj8rki38J7mim5b2BHIWV53KVL6KGtNHK/EDChED X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4042:: with SMTP id j2-v6mr34963660qtl.28.1539976184348; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:09:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62gIsQk05jHcSiw7lIN0PM3Kt39EwLTL53gM9BeMoSIVsHYn7ghA3bg+Vs/tBU8KV2Bd5wt5g== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4042:: with SMTP id j2-v6mr34963639qtl.28.1539976183889; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (turing-police.cc.ipv6.vt.edu. [2001:468:c80:2103:f21f:afff:fe0c:8ada]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w1-v6sm1737356qkd.6.2018.10.19.12.09.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Valdis Kletnieks From: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu X-Google-Original-From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2017 with nmh-1.7+dev To: Dave Taht Cc: "Richard E. Brown" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1539976181_3102P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:09:41 -0400 Message-ID: <120626.1539976181@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wicked OT: 240.0.0.0/4 netblock X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 19:09:50 -0000 --==_Exmh_1539976181_3102P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:53:21 -0700, Dave Taht said: > An attempt to make =22E=22 useful died a decade ago: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fuller-240space-02 > > Still, it would be a better world with 268m more routable ips in it, > wouldn't it? Not really. That ship sailed long ago - class E space is effectively use= less until a large percentage of systems are upgraded to support it. And if y= ou're going to be upgrading all the CPE and ISP hardware/software *anyhow*, you= may as well enable and use IPv6 and get a lot more than 268M routable address= es for the effort. And its presence in bogon lists will make it quite the whack-a-mole chall= enge. Those of us who have been around for a while can remember all the fun whe= n 8/8 and 12/8 were no longer bogons. And the net was a lot smaller then, with= a lot fewer moles that needed whacking. --==_Exmh_1539976181_3102P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2017 iQEVAwUBW8or9Y0DS38y7CIcAQIY7gf/Z6EvX7enXhpaLqedIzZGpL0XOFFhE6un QxDVtvFGjAYW/2parUEIEI4qmFvsAw8/l0wyDsSgk6LRZPY8SQ8x2qh8a5W+0A+5 0s/0OEDfQGEIQWOXJ8FIz0SQOiAWbjQWIOndNlr6EisVYl9G+kqAagzd56hytUY6 QFfK0YXLq6UgIuzGz7Db7Hw/fGasUXo6xVa/7GYeVy/xeot7CjdJni7RuXsFXzUa BrM5ILUZ/Lef1gt/mSp7lya0r3s6qI26bTXjeRSBpdzp2KKmGZoFgKJhzSlYWkoe Ud6Cho+Qd0aebWlkQxyN/vfKAnDC4tP6EDPyMvfxoMj24pHijNcwNQ== =QIf+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1539976181_3102P--