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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Richard E. Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.18-1 Field Report
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:17:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1327805F-3961-40F0-BB90-07997E9E1CC4@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <876F5928-D2F3-417D-8927-21AE2C5CC136@gmail.com>

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Hi Richard,


On Nov 12, 2013, at 18:26 , Richard E. Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:11 AM, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>>>> - Had to enable and set AQM parameters, since they’re saved differently from the QoS settings in the 3.7.5-2 firmware. Set parameters to ~ 90% of link speeds 
>>> 
>>> 	Just curious, did you specify overhead and encapsulation?
> 
> No, I simply used the defaults on that page.

	Ah, you might want to try setting the link layer adaptation mechanism to tc_stab, the link layer to adls or atm and the overhead to 40 (or look at http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/tc/tc-atm/ to figure out the fixed per packet overhead of your link). This should allow you to specify a larger percentage of your link rate as shaped rate… But see the attached screenshot of my AQM tab



> 
>>>> - The kernel.log shows lots of the stack traces below: 2-5 per second on a long-term basis. 
>>> 
>>> 	These look quite weird, the error is a slow patch warning from hfsc_schedule_watchdog . But, hfsc is the queuing discipline used by stock OpenWrt, cerowrt , so far, has only used HTB (last I checked was cerowrt 3.10.11-3). So my guess is that you were running the default QOS system instead (or worse in addition) to cerowrt's. It would be great to see the output of:
>>> tc -d qdisc ; tc -s class show dev ifb0 ; tc -s class show dev ge00
>>> to check what is up with the AQM system...
>>> 
>>> Did you by any change use the QOS tab in 3.7.5-2 instead of running AQM or simple_qos.sh from rc.local/ifup? If so did you direct sys upgrade to keep the old configuration files?
> 
> Yes, I was using QoS in 3.7.5-2, and I kept the old configuration files (so I didn’t have to re-enter credentials for my DSL link, etc.) I guess it seems likely that I may have been running *both* (!)

	Probably just QOS, as I think both QOS and AQM start out by tearing down all discs… but the hfsc error should not affect AQM since it uses HTB.

> 
> Would a better upgrade path be to start with 3.7.5-2, then disable the QoS, then flash with 3.10.18-1? (My intuition tells me that this would remove the QoS settings from the loop…)

	Mhhh, I guess that should work.
> 
> It’s pretty easy to re-flash with 3.10.18-1 and run the tc commands. If disabling QoS makes sense, then after I do the ’tc’ experiment, I’ll re-flash with 3.7.5-2, turn off QoS, then reflash to 3.10.18-1.

	 This should not fix your PPPoE issues though… so maybe it is not the best time to switch…

> But it’ll have to wait ’til dark so no one else is using it. :-)

	Hihi, same issue on my side :) No "playing" with the network while my wife is using it 

Best
	Sebastian


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> Rich
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-12 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-12  5:47 Richard E. Brown
2013-11-12  9:11 ` Sebastian Moeller
     [not found]   ` <51BF9432-6FC2-4A14-B147-13F1E779CA93@gmail.com>
2013-11-12 17:26     ` Richard E. Brown
2013-11-12 21:17       ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2013-11-12 23:06         ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-11-12 23:11           ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-11-15 12:35             ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-11-13  4:21   ` Richard E. Brown
2013-11-13 13:56     ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-11-13 15:53       ` Richard E. Brown
2013-11-12  9:40 ` Fred Stratton
2013-11-12 17:24   ` Richard E. Brown
2013-11-15  1:56 ` Richard E. Brown
2013-11-15  2:27   ` David Personette

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