From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp141.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp141.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07EC721F0E8 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp54.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A33C2B0E7E; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:47:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from legacy16.wa-web.iad1a (legacy16.wa-web.iad1a.rsapps.net [192.168.4.106]) by smtp54.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 51C602B0E50; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from reed.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by legacy16.wa-web.iad1a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2562450001; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:47:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:47:04 -0500 (EST) From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Wesley Eddy" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_20130228134704000000_60793" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: html In-Reply-To: <512F9DB5.60909@mti-systems.com> References: <512F9DB5.60909@mti-systems.com> Message-ID: <1362077224.256114355@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail7.0 Cc: bloat-announce@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, Martin Stiemerling Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] some good bloat related stuff on the ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13:00-15:00, room Caribbean 6 X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:47:06 -0000 ------=_20130228134704000000_60793 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0AA small suggestion. Instead of working on *algorithms*, focus on gettin= g something actually *deployed* to fix the very real issues that we have to= day (preserving the option to upgrade later if need be).=0A =0AThe folks wh= o built the Internet (I was there, as you probably know) focused on making = stuff that worked and interoperated, not publishing papers or RFCs.=0A =0A-= ----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Wesley Eddy" =0ASen= t: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:11pm=0ATo: "Dave Taht" =0ACc: bloat-announce@lists.bufferbloat.net, "Martin Stiemerling" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, "bloat" =0ASubject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] some good b= loat related stuff on the ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13= :00-15:00, room Caribbean 6=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 2/28/2013 10:53 AM, Dave Taht wro= te:=0A> =0A> For those that don't attend ietf meetings in person, there is = usually=0A> live audio and jabber chat hooked up into the presentations.=0A= > =0A> See y'all there, next month, in one form or another.=0A> =0A=0A=0AIn= the TSVAREA meeting, we've also set aside some time to talk=0Aabout AQM an= d whether there's interest and energy to do some=0Amore specific work on AQ= M algs in the IETF (e.g. like CoDel and=0APIE):=0A=0Ahttps://datatracker.ie= tf.org/meeting/86/agenda/tsvarea=0A=0AI'm working with Martin on some slide= s to seed the discussion,=0Abut we hope that it's mostly the community that= we hear from,=0Afollowing up in the higher-bandwidth face-to-face time fro= m=0Athe thread we had on the tsv-area@ietf.org mailing list a few=0Amonths = ago.=0A=0A=0A-- =0AWes Eddy=0AMTI Systems=0A_______________________________= ________________=0ACerowrt-devel mailing list=0ACerowrt-devel@lists.bufferb= loat.net=0Ahttps://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel ------=_20130228134704000000_60793 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= A small suggestion.  Instead of working on *algorithms*, focus on gett= ing something actually *deployed* to fix the very real issues that we have = today (preserving the option to upgrade later if need be).

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The = folks who built the Internet (I was there, as you probably know) focused on= making stuff that worked and interoperated, not publishing papers or RFCs.=

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Wesley Eddy" <wes@mti-= systems.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:11pm
To: "Dav= e Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat-announce@lists.bufferblo= at.net, "Martin Stiemerling" <Martin.Stiemerling@neclab.eu>, cerowrt-= devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, "bloat" <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] some good bloat related stuff on th= e ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13:00-15:00, room Caribbea= n 6

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On 2/28/2013 10:53 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
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>= ; For those that don't attend ietf meetings in person, there is usually
> live audio and jabber chat hooked up into the presentations.
&g= t;
> See y'all there, next month, in one form or another.
>= ;


In the TSVAREA meeting, we've also set aside some time = to talk
about AQM and whether there's interest and energy to do somemore specific work on AQM algs in the IETF (e.g. like CoDel and
PI= E):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/86/agenda/tsvarea
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I'm working with Martin on some slides to seed the discussion,
b= ut we hope that it's mostly the community that we hear from,
following= up in the higher-bandwidth face-to-face time from
the thread we had o= n the tsv-area@ietf.org mailing list a few
months ago.


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