From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp65.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp65.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8924D21F1C3 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 08:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp25.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 56614E007E; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 11:45:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from app30.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay.iad3a.rsapps.net [172.27.255.110]) by smtp25.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3C159E0078; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 11:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from reed.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app30.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA8080042; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 11:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 11:45:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 11:45:46 -0500 (EST) From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Dave Taht" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_20140202114546000000_21682" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: html In-Reply-To: References: <1391357841.349720412@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <1391359546.180725072@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail7.0 Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Joshua Datko Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hwrngs X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:45:47 -0000 ------=_20140202114546000000_21682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0AOrdered the RPi version (5 more in stock, if anyone wants one). Thanks,= Dave!=0A =0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, February 2, 2014 11:25am, "Dave Taht" said:=0A=0A=0A=0A> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:17 AM, wrote:=0A> > Any idea what the price will be in quantity?=0A> =0A= > No. Pretty cheap, it's a very tiny board....=0A> =0A> http://cryptotronix= .com/2013/12/27/hashlet_random_tests/=0A> =0A> I got a discount for 5, and = he has a couple left...=0A> =0A> > The fact that it supports=0A> > both BB = black and RPi is great news for makers interested in authentication=0A> > a= nd security.=0A> =0A> yep.=0A> =0A> It is open hardware also, with a schema= tic supplied, open source=0A> driver (not a kernel driver yet), I was very = happy to support this=0A> project.=0A> =0A> I have looked for usb equivalen= ts, btw, and haven't found anything=0A> inexpensive. And in the case of cer= o I'd wanted something that could=0A> run=0A> on the internal serial header= ...=0A> =0A> I note that theoretically the BBB also has an on-cpu hwrng but= =0A> documentation on it from TI is lacking. Perhaps someone could lean on= =0A> TI to free that information up in the post-snowden era?=0A> =0A> (my t= ake on it is the more hwrngs the better, one from china, one from=0A> russi= a, one from the USA...)=0A> =0A> /me goes back to converting his dns/mail/v= pn server over to a BBB....=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > On Sat= urday, February 1, 2014 11:11pm, "Dave Taht"=0A> =0A> = > said:=0A> >=0A> >> I am still quite irked by having to use /dev/urandom f= or important=0A> >> tasks like dnssec key generation, and in wireless WPA. = And like=0A> >> others, distrust having only one source of random numbers i= n the mix.=0A> >>=0A> >> I just ordered some of these=0A> >>=0A> >> http://= cryptotronix.com/2013/12/27/hashlet_random_tests/=0A> >>=0A> >> Simultaneou= sly while I was getting nsupdate dns working on cerowrt=0A> >> from the yur= t to the dynamic ipv6 stuff, my main dns server died, and=0A> >> I decided= =0A> >> I'd move dns to a beaglebone black, so running across this hwrng ma= de=0A> >> me feel better about randomness on embedded systems.=0A> >>=0A> >= > I bought the last 5 Joshua had, sorry about that! I'd like to find=0A> >>= something=0A> >> that could run off the internal serial port on the wndr38= 00s... and=0A> >> worth incorporating in future designs. (multiple vendors)= =0A> >>=0A> >> --=0A> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht=0A> >>=0A> >> Fixing bufferbloat wi= th cerowrt:=0A> >> http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html=0A> >> __= _____________________________________________=0A> >> Cerowrt-devel mailing = list=0A> >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net=0A> >> https://lists.buffer= bloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel=0A> >>=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> --=0A> Dave T=C3= =A4ht=0A> =0A> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cer= owrt/subscribe.html=0A> ------=_20140202114546000000_21682 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ordered th= e RPi version (5 more in stock, if anyone wants one).  Thanks, Dave!=0A

 

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On Sunday, February 2, 2014 11:25am, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht= @gmail.com> said:

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> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:17 AM, <= dpreed@reed.com> wrote:
> > Any idea what the price will be i= n quantity?
>
> No. Pretty cheap, it's a very tiny board..= ..
>
> http://cryptotronix.com/2013/12/27/hashlet_random_t= ests/
>
> I got a discount for 5, and he has a couple left= ...
>
> > The fact that it supports
> > both= BB black and RPi is great news for makers interested in authentication
> > and security.
>
> yep.
>
> It= is open hardware also, with a schematic supplied, open source
> dr= iver (not a kernel driver yet), I was very happy to support this
> = project.
>
> I have looked for usb equivalents, btw, and h= aven't found anything
> inexpensive. And in the case of cero I'd wa= nted something that could
> run
> on the internal serial he= ader...
>
> I note that theoretically the BBB also has an = on-cpu hwrng but
> documentation on it from TI is lacking. Perhaps = someone could lean on
> TI to free that information up in the post-= snowden era?
>
> (my take on it is the more hwrngs the bet= ter, one from china, one from
> russia, one from the USA...)
&= gt;
> /me goes back to converting his dns/mail/vpn server over to = a BBB....
>
> >
> >
> >
>= >
> >
> > On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:11pm, = "Dave Taht"
> <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> > said:
> >
> >> I am still quite irked by having to use /dev/= urandom for important
> >> tasks like dnssec key generation, = and in wireless WPA. And like
> >> others, distrust having on= ly one source of random numbers in the mix.
> >>
> &g= t;> I just ordered some of these
> >>
> >> h= ttp://cryptotronix.com/2013/12/27/hashlet_random_tests/
> >><= br />> >> Simultaneously while I was getting nsupdate dns working = on cerowrt
> >> from the yurt to the dynamic ipv6 stuff, my m= ain dns server died, and
> >> I decided
> >> I'= d move dns to a beaglebone black, so running across this hwrng made
&g= t; >> me feel better about randomness on embedded systems.
> = >>
> >> I bought the last 5 Joshua had, sorry about tha= t! I'd like to find
> >> something
> >> that co= uld run off the internal serial port on the wndr3800s... and
> >= > worth incorporating in future designs. (multiple vendors)
> &g= t;>
> >> --
> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht
> &g= t;>
> >> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt:
> >&g= t; http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html
> >> ______= _________________________________________
> >> Cerowrt-devel = mailing list
> >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
&g= t; >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel
> = >>
>
>
>
> --
> Dave T=C3= =A4ht
>
> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.tekl= ibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html
>

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