From: dpreed@reed.com
To: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Frits Riep <riep@riepnet.com>,
"cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Ideas on how to simplify and popularize bufferbloat control for consideration.
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:03:08 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1400688188.27216078@apps.rackspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw5xdVr+y_G2NwpUWaW+uXB4PDwqvgacCf9pxMFRMkig-g@mail.gmail.com>
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In reality we don't disagree on this:
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:19am, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com> said:
>
> Well, I disagree somewhat. The downstream shaper we use works quite
> well, until we run out of cpu at 50mbits. Testing on the ubnt edgerouter
> has had the inbound shaper work up a little past 100mbits. So there is
> no need (theoretically) to upgrade the big fat head ends if your cpe is
> powerful enough to do the job. It would be better if the head ends did it,
> of course....
>
There is an advantage for the head-ends doing it, to the extent that each edge device has no clarity about what is happening with all the other cpe that are sharing that head-end. When there is bloat in the head-end even if all cpe's sharing an upward path are shaping themselves to the "up to" speed the provider sells, they can go into serious congestion if the head-end queues can grow to 1 second or more of sustained queueing delay. My understanding is that head-end queues have more than that. They certainly do in LTE access networks.
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-20 22:11 Frits Riep
2014-05-20 23:14 ` Dave Taht
2014-05-21 11:42 ` Frits Riep
2014-05-21 14:51 ` dpreed
2014-05-21 15:19 ` Dave Taht
2014-05-21 16:03 ` dpreed [this message]
2014-05-21 16:30 ` Dave Taht
2014-05-21 17:55 ` dpreed
2014-05-21 17:47 ` Jim Gettys
2014-05-21 17:53 ` Dave Taht
2014-05-21 17:56 ` dpreed
2014-05-21 17:57 ` Jim Gettys
2014-05-21 18:31 ` Dave Taht
2014-05-21 15:07 ` Dave Taht
2014-05-21 16:50 ` Michael Richardson
2014-05-21 17:58 ` David Lang
2014-05-24 14:03 R.
2014-07-25 18:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2014-07-25 21:03 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 11:30 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 20:39 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 21:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 21:45 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 22:24 ` David Lang
2014-07-27 9:50 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 22:39 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 22:53 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 23:39 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-27 0:49 ` David Lang
2014-07-27 11:17 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-01 4:21 ` Michael Richardson
2014-08-01 18:28 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-25 20:48 ` Wes Felter
2014-07-25 20:57 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 11:18 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 20:21 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 20:54 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 21:14 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 21:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-26 22:23 ` David Lang
2014-07-26 23:08 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-07-27 1:04 ` David Lang
2014-07-27 11:38 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-01 4:51 ` Michael Richardson
2014-08-01 18:04 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-02 20:17 ` Michael Richardson
2014-08-01 4:40 ` Michael Richardson
2014-07-26 11:01 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-05-24 14:12 R.
2014-05-24 17:31 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-05-24 19:05 ` David P. Reed
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