From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp97.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp97.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6190B21F2F7 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp13.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp13.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 86351100341; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from app11.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp13.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 68A58100381; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@reed.com Received: from app11.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.4.2); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:53:54 GMT Received: from reed.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app11.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EC4380041; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Jonathan Morton" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: References: <20150316203532.05BD21E2@taggart.lackof.org> <123130.1426635142@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <15A0911A-E3B7-440A-A26B-C5E1489EA98B@viagenie.ca> X-Auth-ID: dpreed@reed.com Message-ID: <1426773234.362612992@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/11.3.13-RC Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?DOCSIS_3+_recommendation=3F?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:54:24 -0000 How many years has it been since Comcast said they were going to fix buffer= bloat in their network within a year?=0A=0AAnd LTE operators haven't even s= tarted.=0A=0ATHat's a sign that the two dominant sectors of "Internet Acces= s" business are refusing to support quality Internet service. (the old sayi= ng about monopoly AT&T: "we don't care. we don't have to." applies to these= sectors).=0A=0AHave fun avoiding bufferbloat in places where there is no "= home router" you can put fq_codel into.=0A=0AIt's almost as if the cable co= mpanies don't want OTT video or simultaneous FTP and interactive gaming to = work. Of course not. They'd never do that.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, March 1= 8, 2015 3:50pm, "Jonathan Morton" said:=0A=0A> ____= ___________________________________________=0A> Cerowrt-devel mailing list= =0A> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net=0A> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/= listinfo/cerowrt-devel=0A> Right, so until 3.1 modems actually become avail= able, it's probably best to=0A> stick with a modem that already supports yo= ur subscribed speed, and manage=0A> the bloat separately with shaping and A= QM.=0A> =0A> - Jonathan Morton=0A> =0A