From: dpreed@reed.com
To: "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 11:37:37 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1435765057.937422821@apps.rackspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1506302151240.9487@uplift.swm.pp.se>
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Mikael, very very helpful, thanks.
I now understand what you are trying to prove/test in your experiments, but there is definitely a need for cake when the dominant use is hi-bitrate WiFi (AC1900) talking to one or more 1 GigE wired paths. And hi bitrate WiFi itself has significantly variable rate capability so it probably needs more feedback than cake might provide to deal with variability.
Since 100+ Mb/sec is supplied by many Internet Access Providers now, it's timely to be able to process packets coming at those rates on the wireline side carried over 1 GigE (my provider, RCN, claims to offer 110+ here in Needham, but with an odd requirement that I buy their router if I get that service - I am trying to get to the bottom of what that is before I upgrade or switch to one of the two other providers, Comcast and Verizon. Maybe it is just that they want customers to not get screwed up if they have a router without 1GigE WAN adapter, complaining that they can't get 110.).
I'd like to see both whatever I get from the IAP, and also what my in-home NAS can provide, along with other services.
On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 3:58pm, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike@swm.pp.se> said:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, dpreed@reed.com wrote:
>
> > What happens if the SoC ports aren't saturated, but the link is GigE?
> > That is, suppose this is an access link to a GigE home or office LAN
> > with wired servers?
>
> As far as I can tell, the device looks like this:
>
> wifi2------
> wifi1----\|
> SOC2 6-|
> SOC1 5-|
> WAN 4-|
> LAN1 3-| (switch)
> LAN2 2-|
> LAN3 1-|
> LAN4 0-|
>
> LAN1-4 and SOC2 is in one vlan, and SOC1 and WAN is in a second vlan. This
> basically means there is no way to get traffic into SOC1 that goes out
> SOC2 that will saturate either port, because they're both gige. Only way
> to saturate the SOC port would be if the SOC itself "created" traffic, for
> instance by being a fileserver, or if there is significant traffic on the
> wifi (which has PCI-E connectivity).
>
> So it's impossible to congest SOC1 or SOC2 (egress) by running traffic
> LAN<->WAN alone.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>
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2015-06-19 17:35 ` Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 20:12 ` Dave Taht
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2015-06-19 21:52 ` Luis E. Garcia
2015-06-19 23:32 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-20 5:52 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 2:41 ` Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 7:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 12:55 ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:09 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-23 17:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 18:15 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-24 5:21 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 5:19 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 11:31 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 16:32 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 1:53 ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25 3:07 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 3:32 ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25 9:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 10:26 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 20:13 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 20:16 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 20:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-25 22:14 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 6:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 7:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 9:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 12:26 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 14:17 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 14:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:18 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-26 16:31 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-26 17:04 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 18:24 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 18:38 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 18:58 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 18:59 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 19:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 19:13 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27 5:03 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-27 5:18 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27 5:50 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-27 17:59 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27 18:23 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-27 18:52 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27 23:13 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 7:06 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 8:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 10:29 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 17:04 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 17:32 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 17:58 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-28 18:04 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-28 18:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 19:17 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 19:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 20:48 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 21:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 4:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 5:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 7:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 7:54 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 7:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:10 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:17 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 8:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 7:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 8:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:42 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 9:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 10:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-29 13:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 13:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 13:46 ` dpreed
2015-06-29 16:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-30 13:58 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 16:20 ` dpreed
2015-06-30 19:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 8:23 ` David Lang
2015-07-01 10:32 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 11:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-01 15:37 ` dpreed [this message]
2015-06-29 13:42 ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 16:44 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-29 18:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 22:15 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 22:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 8:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 9:40 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:33 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 15:43 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 16:06 ` dpreed
2015-07-02 19:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-07 1:07 ` David Lang
2015-07-02 16:09 ` Rich Brown
2015-07-02 16:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-03 11:38 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 6:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 18:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 16:34 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 16:27 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 16:36 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:43 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 17:01 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:35 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 14:40 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:37 ` Sebastian Moeller
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