From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr2.cc.vt.edu (omr2.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2001:468:c80:2105:0:24d:7091:8b9c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A35721F394; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr5.cc.vt.edu (mr5.cc.vt.edu [198.82.141.27] (may be forged)) by omr2.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t2KI4jWd001301; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:04:46 -0400 Received: from auth1.smtp.vt.edu (auth1.smtp.vt.edu [198.82.161.152] (may be forged)) by mr5.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t2KI4eHK027687; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:04:45 -0400 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([IPv6:2001:468:c80:2103:11aa:8169:e7a:fc8c]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth1.smtp.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t2KI4ekw014481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:04:40 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6+dev To: "David P. Reed" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2015 07:08:27 -0700." From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20150316203532.05BD21E2@taggart.lackof.org> <123130.1426635142@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <15A0911A-E3B7-440A-A26B-C5E1489EA98B@viagenie.ca> <1426773234.362612992@apps.rackspace.com> <1426796961.194223197@apps.rackspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1426874680_2081P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:04:40 -0400 Message-ID: <14520.1426874680@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mr5.cc.vt.edu Cc: Greg White , "Livingood, Jason" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:05:21 -0000 --==_Exmh_1426874680_2081P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 07:08:27 -0700, "David P. Reed" said: > M-Lab is better by far. But control by Google automatically discredits it's data. > Criticizing M-LAB is just fodder fir the operators' lobby in DC. I'm trying to get those two statements to play nice together, but keep having to beat down the cognitive dissonance with a stick. And why, exactly, are they automatically discredited? Unless you live in one of the very few places that has Google Fiber, you're someplace where Google has a vested interest in improving the eyeball-to-content connection, because they want to get content to you. --==_Exmh_1426874680_2081P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQIVAwUBVQxhNwdmEQWDXROgAQIMSQ//bbUzv/qQG83dXMlOKrO5X+QSEOKqj/Vd uZ2DGVOi2fj9bIZD3knkgwX1i400RHUaDsNf/45rIYvFIrUCWBOca9QA1YeaXJx2 BjgVw5ydq32LSXPcUJfUV6ftwrcR+hRFzAEltOc1d0jPwWtLmiwlyR+2DK701Sh8 493t+kmecY524Qmmfj9r4rho50ylLc40TT4NrV+PqvZi0KtcRvPekanDbX3MTSKd oP4kCyqwnSgcwxoEPjFNx1KcpI04Ks6GksiaUtR997JKqnGww5UdmEMKP6j+3aVs hLSsagLfw5pNIHGfzyrl2u6boCRIoB1WJ2+lgRnKwd8s0X8kdwgoaTz5/wCXHPJE qYyaIl8islXM30ZyzknQTTQXNmEicAWcnXpbmiL8+JzJNl8iV4hFJEbQfduyzERY M9WZpSzKSuiw8yE5eftNOq9etaSYznnQpkFy/ntKVxiEPZpQ+FpBkHat02NtZ2tm Ew2fxkYBR/kSeLhNGz1R2R7Q3Kw9SPOg3LQr4mdlAKZRxjKzUv0SyRkdjHqR02Ik 4FOs2t2LK4YW2ccQY48/VY0gj2qBAMsY8fM5KRquXbQQBKPdNTbo15fb+SLEqkov IqIgdjjgvegZQRvby6vPf/Rrc411BTYYrWAyFXKU2zsi2n2HPxRQRblxO3vFSOxH AIIIjuVFSRM= =AXGp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1426874680_2081P--