From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr2.cc.vt.edu (omr2.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8400:0:33:fb76:806e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45E433CB35 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mr5.cc.vt.edu (smtp.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:9:0:9d:8fcb:4116]) by omr2.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w5JKYEgb023267 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:34:14 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f200.google.com (mail-qk0-f200.google.com [209.85.220.200]) by mr5.cc.vt.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w5JKY95b007725 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:34:14 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f200.google.com with SMTP id g2-v6so815162qkm.13 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; bh=idYoBUU+AG3KurAsGwdFJ/JdxF85pg+uk6hnu8d++HQ=; b=mo0qeN1lT9SijVPl4f7uRGUlTQDxBRnH6pq+jWUEfl/ELhMT+/JkWxztt9XjDfHYPZ /jOQe4I8BCgyX4jNcvrBnrIQvcjv1oTvCsU0hqCLmW/ovD5W3pIYDo/+IiVCoHKYpnyU OCFFQczRg9xPEBN4KYMSXuaGb/OmvgVeBdI8QNczaSC717eJBAObkmMyfEcLNH0XaCLd fx63vytIeOO9gptX2bYKlKRnVHPu6D+3FS57hrYbvxDM5pr6bduRbDCuSMnRIS82JH3O 5i8dLlrwzSwYmtUzzB/ET1250a/ThSBewWFp3x2498lxplzE0B3okgdn/cczvBwBCKaU IFoA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E022w1x88SgVzSmtxX17B3bQRe/rZcr4dNZxsQPlESeQ3OYvxps Fm2KforhxiSqPUddq0kB2ED9OpzK36u3z6ZeWF3NM5tUaKxJXoDmMz906HusytrPtvb49yY6bRD KIE/RM0IvR/8YkVf08k+VbSRqxsvVGUl3CsyH/wbNWSEA X-Received: by 2002:a0c:bf03:: with SMTP id m3-v6mr15869373qvi.118.1529440449695; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJLAr4CJ87qkDIAg2x8TTxz0yODucugzpA7UWHps7/1oYop7YXteC2EP4n6P9phZHlG6CoUcg== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:bf03:: with SMTP id m3-v6mr15869360qvi.118.1529440449467; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([2601:5c0:c001:4341:35b5:bfc2:fe87:3677]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n69-v6sm426464qke.52.2018.06.19.13.34.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 19 Jun 2018 13:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Valdis Kletnieks From: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu X-Google-Original-From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2017 with nmh-1.7+dev To: Dave Taht cc: "dpreed@deepplum.com" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat In-reply-to: References: <1529339194.276412941@apps.rackspace.com> <1529361825.80979395@apps.rackspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:34:07 -0400 Message-ID: <145517.1529440447@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 20:34:15 -0000 On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:46:18 -0700, Dave Taht said: > One of cake's =22minor=22 features is the *perfect* defeat of the htb > based shaper in cable modems. If you know the set-rate on the modem, > you just set it to the same thing and get vastly superior performance t= o > docsis 3.1, pie, or the sqm-scripts. Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate?