From: dpreed@reed.com
To: "Alan Jenkins" <alan.christopher.jenkins@gmail.com>
Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BBR congestion control algorithm for TCP innet-next
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:10:21 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1474492221.058911695@apps.rackspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANmMgnFZQ2KusNEcx+Dv56xsw2ZP+w6BfsNq8VZiBxvyDi7MSw@mail.gmail.com>
Don't want to dwell on this, but Sandvine is not an unbiased source. And it is apparently the *only* source - and 50% is a LOT. Even Trump and Clinton don't have 50% of the electorate each. :-)
Does Sandvine have the resources to examine a true sample of all Internet traffic?
Maybe the NSA does.
On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:42pm, "Alan Jenkins" <alan.christopher.jenkins@gmail.com> said:
> On 20/09/2016, dpreed@reed.com <dpreed@reed.com> wrote:
>> I constantly see the claim that >50% of transmitted data on the Internet are
>> streaming TV. However, the source seems to be as hard to nail down as the
>> original claim that >50% of Internet traffic was pirated music being sent
>> over bittorrent.
>
> uh, ibid.
>
> 50-60% "upstream bandwidth", 2010 and 2008 respectively.
>
> I'm quite happy to believe the trend, at least. Do you have a
> preferred assessment or even a rebuttal (back of the envelope,
> whatever) for around that time?
>
> BT for media is a real sweet spot. Music particularly because people
> _collect_, though I don't know what the timeline would look like for
> music v.s. video.
>
> Not as if the original figure was being cited as scientific gospel.
>
> The last paper out of Netflix, they said it works best to stomp out
> the isochronous behaviour and run in FTP mode as much as possible :).
> (Subject to upper limits on quality and application buffers). Even
> dumb chunk downloading uses TCP; it's not isochronous in the way
> that's usually used to describe RTP etc.
>
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-17 21:11 dpreed
2016-09-17 21:33 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-19 20:26 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-20 20:27 ` dpreed
2016-09-21 6:24 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-09-21 16:57 ` dpreed
2016-09-21 7:32 ` Alan Jenkins
2016-09-21 17:04 ` dpreed
2016-09-21 18:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2016-09-21 21:13 ` dpreed
2016-09-21 18:42 ` Alan Jenkins
2016-09-21 21:10 ` dpreed [this message]
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