From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp105.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp105.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC12D3B2A0 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C04FE065B; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from app37.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B67FE06A1; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@reed.com Received: from app37.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.7); Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 Received: from reed.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app37.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1FCC1037; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:13:54 -0400 (EDT) From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Mikael Abrahamsson" Cc: "Alan Jenkins" , "Jonathan Morton" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: References: <1474146692.035424358@mobile.rackspace.com> <1474403262.975213436@apps.rackspace.com> <4a1fd48e-b1c4-2e75-d55a-417a83a572d4@gmail.com> <1474477488.832416984@apps.rackspace.com> X-Auth-ID: dpreed@reed.com Message-ID: <1474492434.506624328@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/12.5.3-RC Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BBR congestion control algorithm for TCP innet-next X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:13:54 -0000 On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:00pm, "Mikael Abrahamsson" said:=0A=0A> Yes, I guess people who have been staring at traffic gra= phs and Netflow=0A> collector system output for 10-15 years have no insight= into what and how=0A> much traffic is going where.=0A=0AThat's exactly wha= t I am saying.=0A=0A