From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp105.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp105.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29B7B3B29E for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp38.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp38.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DBA7D57BD; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) X-SMTPDoctor-Processed: csmtpprox beta Received: from smtp38.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp38.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D7A425952; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from app62.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp38.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C98F957BD; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) X-Sender-Id: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from app62.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app62.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id B495041459; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by mobile.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) From: "dpreed@deepplum.com" To: "Dave Taht" Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <1518702402.737522502@mobile.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: mobile/4.1.4 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?iso-8859-1?q?anyone_fiddlng_with_these=3F?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:46:43 -0000 This is one of things that is happening. Question is what would be the righ= t approach? Mozilla also seems to be hacking away with little architectura= l thinking. Under the theory that you don't need a theory, just "good code"= . What could go wrong? How did we get Spectre in every processor implementation? Answer: processor= architects all copied a flawed concept that speculation can easily undo ob= servables. But security is often about exfiltration, not just "getting into= kernel mode". Where did the operational architecture for these InterNOT of Things devices= come from? Band aid thinking. Patch on patch. -----Original Message----- From: "Dave Taht" Sent: Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:15 am To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone fiddlng with these? An esp32 coupled with an arm based 802.14 mcu, or an lte chip... "With one line of code you'll be securely sending messages to the web." what could go wrong?" https://www.particle.io/mesh --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619 _______________________________________________ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel