From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp105.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp105.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40F8B3BA8E for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0B12256F9; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-SMTPDoctor-Processed: csmtpprox beta Received: from smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 03F0C5717; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from app55.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp30.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E59C956F9; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@deepplum.com Received: from app55.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:48 -0400 Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app55.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2681C14DE; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: dpreed@deepplum.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:49:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "dpreed@deepplum.com" To: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: "Dave Taht" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: <63972.1532546069@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <63972.1532546069@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <1532548188.859320957@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/15.3.1-RC Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?So_how_far_behind_is_the_embedded_route?= =?utf-8?q?r_world=2C_still=3F?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:49:49 -0000 The FCC wants to throw people like you in jail, you know. The rules allowin= g them to do so are coming into force.=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFr= om: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:14pm=0ATo: "= Dave Taht" =0ACc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net= =0ASubject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router wo= rld, still?=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0ACerowrt-= devel mailing list=0ACerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net=0Ahttps://lists.bu= fferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel=0AOn Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:50:31 -0700, = Dave Taht said:=0A=0A> I recently took apart verizon FIOS's current firmwar= e for one of their=0A> more popular routers. It's still running 2.6.21, whi= ch shipped in=0A> june, 2007. Overgeneralizing from this one data point, I = am wondering=0A> if the trendline for new routing products tracking current= software=0A> has got worse or better?=0A=0AI have to admit I bought a Link= sys WRT1200AC and it didn't stay on=0Afactory firmware long enough for me t= o check, it got Lede installed=0Aright over the top before it got swapped i= n for the old router....=0A=0AFriends don't let friends run factory firmwar= e... :)=0A