From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp121.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp121.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD14C3CB35 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp32.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp32.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9AE4B5A5F; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) X-SMTPDoctor-Processed: csmtpprox beta Received: from smtp32.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp32.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93AD95AA5; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from app10.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp32.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7CEE75A5F; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from app10.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app10.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A834E003A; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "dpreed@deepplum.com" To: "David Lang" Cc: "Dave Taht" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, "bloat" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <1534262034.434218098@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: mobile/6.0.2 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] fcc initial comments due sept 10 X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:53:54 -0000 1000/25 is my current low cost service. Due to competition, low cost 1000/1= 000 is rapidly spreading in the Boston area, on a number of novel tech infr= astructures. Sadly, government thinks that Monopoly is the tool to "incent"= reluctant incumbents, and/or classification by FCC surveys. Competition (new entrants, or multiple providers) does it without the FCC e= ven being engaged. But businesses DONT want competition if they can corrupt the government che= aper. Look at Pennsylvania... Bought and paid for, Comcast Country. Tax subsidies= , laws against Muni Fiber, ... Comcast has great technologists, for sure. S= o did Bell Labs in its heyday. But touchtone took 20 years and still didn't= make it widely, even though it would have allowed advanced switching servi= ces. FCC isn't the place to make things happen. -----Original Message----- From: "David Lang" Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:45 pm To: "dpreed@deepplum.com" Cc: "Dave Taht" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,= "bloat" Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] fcc initial comments due sept 10 On Fri, 10 Aug 2018, dpreed@deepplum.com wrote: > Now 25 Mb/sec is totally fine for most standard WWW/email usage, and even= a little YouTube watching. I'm currently doing that fairly comfortably on a 5/1 line, 25mb would be ve= ry=20 nice to be able to get. David Lang