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Reed" To: "Rich Brown" Cc: "Sebastian Moeller" , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: <6C32AF17-015D-4771-8051-17BF1938C22C@gmail.com> References: <54620DA1-1B6B-456E-990E-3C99B6779887@gmx.de> <6C32AF17-015D-4771-8051-17BF1938C22C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1584912664.72374374@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/17.2.10-RC X-Classification-ID: fc9c07f6-faa2-4485-8fd5-e7f00a7d8ea9-1-1 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] OT: Netflix vs 6in4 from HE.net X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 21:31:05 -0000 This might turn out to be a problem for me - I have a "smart TV" that I wat= ch Netflix on, and it appears to use IPv4. What specifically triggers Netfl= ix to reject specific IPv6 clients? Is it the player's IPv6 address? Is all= of he.net's address space blocked?=0A=0AI've been planning to move more of= my home networks to routed IPv6.=0A=0AIn principle, Netflix as a business = shouldn't care - it's just doing its best efforts to protect its content's = licensing requirements. So if I'm actually in the US, and my net claims cor= rectly to be in US (by whatever trickery I use), neither Netflix nor I am v= iolating any license from a legal point of view.=0A=0ASo all I need to do w= ould be to get a legit US IPv6 address (I have one /64 on a public cloud se= rver), and tunnel it to my house and give it to my TV. Not ideal, but until= Netflix does its geofencing *correctly* according to the license, rather t= han according to IP address, I'd say it's a proper thing.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sat= urday, March 21, 2020 8:47pm, "Rich Brown" said:= =0A=0A> I love knowing smart people.=0A> =0A> Yes, it does appear to be Ne= tflix geo-fencing their services. Given that I only=0A> watch Netflix on on= e computer, I am taking Sebastian's advice and turning off IPv6=0A> DNS que= ries in Firefox.=0A> =0A> Thanks again for these responses.=0A> =0A> Rich= =0A> =0A>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Moeller = wrote:=0A>>=0A>> Hi Rich,=0A>>=0A>> since it seems to be IPv6 related, why= not use firefox for netflix and disable=0A>> IPv6 in firefox (see=0A>> htt= ps://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-cant-load-websites-other-browsers= -can#w_ipv6)=0A>> maybe that works well enough?=0A>>=0A>> Best Regards=0A>>= =09Sebastian=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 21:20, Rich Bro= wn wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>> to Bloat & CeroWrt folks: T= his is a little OT for either of these lists, but I=0A>>> figured there are= plenty of experts here, and I would be delighted to get your=0A>>> thought= s.=0A>>>=0A>>> I just tried to view a Netflix movie and got a F7111-5059 er= ror message. This=0A>>> prevented the video from playing. (As recently as a= month or two ago, it worked=0A>>> fine.)=0A>>>=0A>>> Googling the error me= ssage gets to this page=0A>>> https://help.netflix.com/en/node/54085 that s= ingles out use of an IPv6 Proxy=0A>>> Tunnel.=0A>>>=0A>>> Sure enough, I'm = have a 6in4 tunnel through Hurricane Electric on WAN6. Stopping=0A>>> that = WAN6 interface caused Netflix to work.=0A>>>=0A>>> What advice could you of= fer? (I could, of course, turn off WAN6 to watch movies.=0A>>> But that's a= drag, and other family members couldn't do this.) Many thanks.=0A>>>=0A>>>= Rich=0A>>> _______________________________________________=0A>>> Bloat mai= ling list=0A>>> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net=0A>>> https://lists.bufferbloat= .net/listinfo/bloat=0A>>=0A> =0A> _________________________________________= ______=0A> Cerowrt-devel mailing list=0A> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.n= et=0A> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel=0A> =0A