From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp108.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp108.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9E9B3CB35 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=g001.emailsrvr.com; s=20190322-9u7zjiwi; t=1586007425; bh=L0fKlDjoDq5DgIlK7x86ZfbKNUemkUET7JX7lwnBYzs=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=K2EXQWyY5buvi86UjxNhCPVvlPQK5kyN0AvnGfV/rP3RPWk0hXSbdFI02dLN8hBwt WHd+N63YKccSOOslFlu41wAl8tLqjC0LOsZ+w8NPOGmALTDaIvKVdonbEmnjXycY5m PzDNRIgSS2gmEzYiHgiuBdsQyaumwSEsmEsh/w/A= Received: from app30.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp14.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9181520FF9; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@deepplum.com Received: from app30.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Sat, 04 Apr 2020 09:37:05 -0400 Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app30.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78208E0BD3; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: dpreed@deepplum.com Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "David P. Reed" To: "Jonathan Morton" Cc: "=?utf-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?=" , "cerowrt-devel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: References: <1585954435.95276219@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <1586007425.489720655@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/17.3.5-RC X-Classification-ID: 303ac86d-471a-4f8f-9148-052d87fe5d91-1-1 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?openwrt_or_=22open=22_security_cams=3F?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 13:37:05 -0000 I have some servers with 512 GB of RAM, and my company sells "Software Defi= ned Server" capability to relatively inexpensively make virtualized systems= with 10 TB of RAM out of these 512 GB systems. They fit in less then a sin= gle 19" rack.=0A=0A[Couldn't resist :-) https://www.tidalscale.com/technolo= gy is the place to learn more.=0A=0AMore OT: We deal with "bloat" at a diff= erent scale in our Ethernet internal to our software defined server impleme= ntation, since our interconnects are 10 GigE up to 100 GigE, but I can tell= you it is a problem there, too. Serious problem if you by Arista gear, whi= ch is bloated by intent :-( because latency doesn't occur to Bechtolsheim t= o be a problem, only throughput. Fortunately, we (my design) control the ne= twork stack in the hyperkernel, and can use speciaized end-to-end protocols= that don't use the bloat.=0A=0AAnyway, my actual non-work desktop has 32 G= B RAM. So 128 GB isn't surprising in my context.]=0A=0AOn Friday, April 3, = 2020 7:10pm, "Jonathan Morton" said:=0A=0A>> On 4 A= pr, 2020, at 2:08 am, Joel Wir=C4=81mu Pauling wrote:= =0A>>=0A>> 128G of Ram=0A> =0A> That's somewhat more than I have in my desk= top PCs. Did you mean 128MB?=0A> =0A> - Jonathan Morton=0A> =0A> =0A