From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD1A21F2C0 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h200.viagenie.ca (h200.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.200]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 564E04043F for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:38:45 -0400 (EDT) From: JF Tremblay Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_543543C4-479E-4535-9A20-586060077837" Message-Id: <15A0911A-E3B7-440A-A26B-C5E1489EA98B@viagenie.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:38:41 -0400 References: <20150316203532.05BD21E2@taggart.lackof.org> <123130.1426635142@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:39:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_543543C4-479E-4535-9A20-586060077837 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Mar 18, 2015, at 2:26 AM, Jonathan Morton = wrote: >=20 > DOCSIS 3.1 mandates support for AQM (at minimum the PIE algorithm) in = both CPE and head end. If you can get hold of a D3.1 modem [=E2=80=A6]. >=20 That last part might involve robbing the house of a Comcast employee... = ;)=20 = http://www.lightreading.com/cable/docsis/comcast-puts-docsis-31-live-in-th= e-field/d/d-id/714494 = No D3.1 hardware is certified at this point, the chipsets are just = barely out and still experimental. Customers probably won=E2=80=99t see = D31 hardware before 2016.=20 Btw, in my experience, modems and CMTSes have no AQM at all configured. = And the buffers are large, in both directions. The more recent the = model, the more buffer it usually has (hey, more speed requires more = buffer, right?). I=E2=80=99ve seen multiple Mb in some models, can=E2=80=99= t remember the exact amount, but it might have been 2-4 Mb for my = current TM702. So the worst case is actually to have a very recent modem = with a lower-tier speed (like a 10 Mbps).=20 JF --Apple-Mail=_543543C4-479E-4535-9A20-586060077837 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


On Mar 18, 2015, at 2:26 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:

DOCSIS 3.1 mandates support for AQM (at minimum the PIE = algorithm) in both CPE and head end. If you can get hold of a D3.1 modem = [=E2=80=A6].

That last part might involve = robbing the house of a Comcast employee... ;) 

http://www.lightreading.com/cable/docsis/comcast-puts-docsis-31= -live-in-the-field/d/d-id/714494

No D3.1 hardware is certified at this point, the = chipsets are just barely out and still experimental. Customers probably = won=E2=80=99t see D31 hardware before 2016. 

Btw, in my experience, modems and CMTSes have no = AQM at all configured. And the buffers are large, in both directions. = The more recent the model, the more buffer it usually has (hey, more = speed requires more buffer, right?). I=E2=80=99ve seen multiple Mb in = some models, can=E2=80=99t remember the exact amount, but it might have = been 2-4 Mb for my current TM702. So the worst case is actually to have = a very recent modem with a lower-tier speed (like a 10 = Mbps). 

JF




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