From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (unknown [209.87.249.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C52D121F0B3; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06592002F; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 80F8B63B70; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E2E63B09; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Rick Jones In-Reply-To: <53A9D92B.7010603@hp.com> References: <53A9D92B.7010603@hp.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Cc: cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?=5BBloat=5D__Dave_T=C3=A4ht_quoted_in_t?= =?utf-8?q?he_ACLU_blog?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 17:57:09 -0000 Rick Jones wrote: > Perhaps, but where does having gigabit fibre to a business imply the business > has the space, power, and cooling to host all the servers it might need/wish > to have? That's a secondary decision. Given roof space, solar panels and/or snow-outside, maybe the answer is that I regularly have 2 our of 3 of those available in a decentralized way. And, how can I "cloudburst" (migrate some VMs from business to cloud and back) if I don't have multi-gigabit fiber to the DC? -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [