From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C9FB21F5FC for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hms-beagle.lan ([134.2.89.70]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lk81O-1WdLcE3BlK-00cCPr; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:53:08 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <25037.1406327367@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:53:03 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1708B25E-C893-4561-AF54-9AF743D39BE3@gmx.de> References: <03292B76-5273-4912-BB18-90E95C16A9F5@pnsol.com> <66FF8435-C8A5-4596-B43A-EC12D537D49E@gmx.de> <25037.1406327367@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5J9AL/hcwls46QIwTcxeUNvnGQwwz+CYwhA7co6TUYZcgOCsAp4 d2oQbGbbE2yhETmX0GgQJHHOEZcUFGooXHq4UbDiE4XLTPk41Rvm35kuXq6TQMvmM5RkkGU m1MSYYwXjmKXwKbLS2NS0UUkY4iARsib+f4svQtmgLKh9jWnmvLsQfHa/xj8ajElR2K2d1A Luu4eCOVp16Gp8795iTdA== Cc: Neil Davies , cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Check out www.speedof.me - no Flash X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:53:20 -0000 Hi Valdis, On Jul 26, 2014, at 00:29 , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:20:53 -0700, David Lang said: >=20 >> cost of bandwidth for this is just something to get someone to pay = for (ideally >> someone with tons of bandwidth already who won't notice this sort of = test, even >> if there are a few going on at once.) >=20 > Ask U of Wisconsin how that worked out for them when Netgear shipped = some > new boxes.... >=20 > = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse#NETGEAR_and_the_U= niversity_of_Wisconsin.E2.80.93Madison >=20 > It's one thing to come up with a solution that works for the 300 = (total wild guess) people > on this list. But to be useful for field deployable, it really needs = to be able > to handle a "every Comcast customer in a major metro area", because we = *do* > want this stuff to work well when this makes it into the CPE that = Comcast > gives every new customer, right? :) Hence it would be really sweet if the link speed test could be = perfumed against the CMTS/DSLAM as these should be powerful enough to = handle load from the number of subscribed =93homes=94. All we need is a = fairly cheap way to measure one-way delays to and from the home router=85 = (I think I am just going to try how far supported and how useful ICMP = timestamp requests are, I also wonder why these are considered a = security risk and seem to be missing in ICMPv6) Best Regards sebastian > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel