From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp79.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp79.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E45C23B2A4 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from app40.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp10.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 856766350; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app40.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B27F6206C; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: dpreed@deepplum.com Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "David P. Reed" To: "Dave Taht" Cc: "cerowrt-devel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: References: X-Client-IP: 209.6.168.128 Message-ID: <1723673801.433526496@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/19.0.25-RC X-Classification-ID: 398b0f99-cb03-43cd-acf9-c72dbeb0e3b4-1-1 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] two fpga ethernet libraries X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 22:16:41 -0000 Thanks! Very cool that these guys are publishing designs.=0AI worry they mi= ght get sued, though - so much of this stuff is patented requiring licenses= to use the techniques.=0AThey don't call digital circuit designs "IP" for = nothing. We are so much better off in the software world, where we have rel= atively few "software patents", and use copyright on code.=0AThe biggest di= fference between copyright and patent IP is that if you don't "copy" code, = you never need to worry. With patents, you can conceive of and implement so= mething, then get sued for infringement.=0ABoth are problematic, but patent= s can be the devil's spawn.=0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, August 14, 2024 13:25, "D= ave Taht via Cerowrt-devel" said:=0A= =0A> _______________________________________________=0A> Cerowrt-devel mail= ing list=0A> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net=0A> https://lists.bufferbl= oat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel=0A> https://hackaday.com/2024/08/14/a-really= -low-level-guide-to-doing-ethernet-on-an-fpga/=0A> =0A> --=0A> Artists/Musi= cian Campout Aug 9-11=0A> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/healing-arts-event-t= ickets-928910826287=0A> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos=0A> =0A