From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch (mail-40132.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BCA63CB35 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:59:43 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=soltysiak.com; s=protonmail; t=1566151191; bh=trq/Lf0t8bRvZTC9PyS6RaFbBsg8h/2O/52Yf4quqPk=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From; b=C8tvyueub7QRla7RWkwkwsANP5BBq2pj0o+f1N6ar+YQKAQ/zW1Am+rW6IZenj2wq k+OeO7xW7Syc7o6OiqGfQQBvWOYOO2TOLRBdd+sLoXONDoJF125kqHQR901cL6ZIOv YD1+eaj92aZuvIRAV8+khQ7dqB0gBLLaBsynt7xI= To: Dave Taht From: =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_So=C5=82tysiak?= Cc: cerowrt-devel Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_So=C5=82tysiak?= Message-ID: <18Rwulp6VPOEx0Y6EmA1Pd6CH1ON7j49Tfzu1P6tlXJauXRJTMpcpfxq93lgct3rQ5wKCk7ZvLfKTqXHMEDrYReEnL3uyEokqDLB5JIY8YI=@soltysiak.com> In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: BgGZWNpQ72vxpb-bOaC_p2RD0qvvfcZ_T0IqNMUSaeON2PXyOvZelvE-Ssn070-B4tVEp5CwLkAiLupAHKEVcA==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cloudflare prospectus X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 17:59:53 -0000 Bert Hubert noticed this interesting piece: "1.1.1.1 is a public DNS resolv= er, but unlike most DNS resolvers, we do not sell user data to advertisers.= " Do they? Or is it a poke at Google? It's from this piece: "1.1.1.1: A fast and private way to browse the Internet. 1.1.1.1 is a publi= c DNS resolver, but unlike most DNS resolvers, we do not sell user data to = advertisers. Our implementation of 1.1.1.1 makes it the fastest resolver av= ailable, and we support DNS over HTTPS (DoH) which encrypts and secures con= sumers=E2=80=99 DNS requests." Also, I'm not sure I trust them with not selling now, and not ever selling = later. IPO means new decision makers and they love to change course for hig= her yields no matter what. Regards, Maciej =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Thursday, August 15, 2019 9:24 PM, Dave Taht wrote= : > I am generally very pleased with cloudflare's services on our behalf, > but I was not aware of how small they were or how much > money they were losing. They also have a vision statement in here: > > https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1477333/000119312519222176/d73502= 3ds1.htm > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel