Dave Taht wrote: > so am I the only one left that likes edison batteries? you don't need > a charge controller... they last for a hundred years.... I was ignorant of them until just now when I asked google. I too want a combined AP + solar + battery solution. I bought one "car wifi" device from aliexpress, and while it claimed it took 12V in, it was in fact intolerant (blue smoke) of the typical 13.6V that most car systems run at when unloaded. Seems dumb to regulate to 12V just so that the unit can regulate again to 3.3V/5V... I haven't dared to try a netgear 3800 yet. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [