From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65F9E3CB37 for ; Sun, 7 May 2023 12:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7401D3898C; Sun, 7 May 2023 12:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kRA8eQqW988L; Sun, 7 May 2023 12:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F9F3898B; Sun, 7 May 2023 12:27:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1683476878; bh=03NkvqZ6JosNX7Eew+uJxW4Qngfsc1V31rCosvLXFJY=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=lHClDmn8VxGLSANXeQer7VilkjU1jUPcWV66zalNyrRv+aQonUdJMm6TvPk2/87ir ffVmdXwtgwvQ+Eis1moBZ1pDhuGRVIGszsoMJP3I05bbpq+2jEYKrYxuVrmWz2BN9H PWfEp89F2p0lwCpEPPhpn1boe0/STEK0t5F5+jwQsuBI+xUb6+LWekMrEqtQw/0BEI NHnfOsfNO0fkygsBtaqmIL++26Q7e2NzgX4qaW1l4zJXEirPkZs3Vm4iIiz81qxPAv R18dIH/XKpKbVjHbQDmdaUtogOlEFbhsgNW/9Gz8TeMNNgw98sJdfIyZ7aEwVlpcQg LJjR3YGQQlH6g== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3306516; Sun, 7 May 2023 12:09:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Dave Taht , cerowrt-devel In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 12:09:22 -0400 Message-ID: <19253.1683475762@localhost> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] risc-v 2 ethernet port router X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 16:09:28 -0000 Dave Taht via Cerowrt-devel wrote: > https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/05/06/lichee-pi-4a-risc-v-sbc-raspberr= y-pi-4-th1520-processor/ } Sipeed has just started taking orders for the Lichee Pi 4A (8GB RAM + 8G= B } flash) for $119.00 on Aliexpress, and the 16GB RAM version is scheduled = for } next month. Additional information can be found on the product page. It's quite a lot of computer. The price is not great, but if it's a Gb/s fq_codel box you want, then it's probably fine. I don't really like the small form factor as a home router, btw: the cables will be heavier than t= he box, and it will all fall on the floor behind the TV, where it will gather dust :-) I'd want a big hunk of steel that would stay where I put it, and I'm okay = if it also dissipates some heat. Five years ago, I built a dozen OrangePIZero's with two extra USB ethernet= s in a 3D printed box. So, a total of three ethernets. I meant to build a hundred of them. The most complex topology one can build with two etherne= ts is a circle. Three ethernets opens one up to all sorts of trees, etc. This was for RFC8994 testing. So I continue to look for ~$20 boxes that could easily do more than two ethernets. I don't need high speed, but it'= s nice to have. I do need auto-MDX, which GbE PHYs all offer. One reason I didn't proceed was that I still haven't gotten beyond what I can do in VMs. (i.e. my software is not ready) At the time, OpenWRT did not do well with the various switch-port extensio= ns that got one 4-5 ethernets: they were will custom jobs, but now they are mostly all do DSA, so a 12-port Zyxel would seem to satisfy my needs. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networ= ks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect= [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails = [