From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-x235.google.com (mail-qa0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14ACE21F1A5 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j5so3078904qaq.5 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:52:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=WbkA/2x+pENpABaBcRHNeqDl5LnS055OToKLyCxa6Bw=; b=p85Mmt7gsPY1EBxc1k9ICg3EguRKhzUaoS7xNzgoFTVxEC9a9h4ElwiJl+OgdROBLL NcAJEWjkn8OH7fkLeFuyzCwEV4zd3pved/JVfKOPlDadtZwPib16uqFRnoi9svk0IwQC dBJ7fcw4CkXQ4LF8dIoQjMp0i7eqbONWoYnWXe/wLpgic0L4zH1naOZqFWcSx1azjqOq Qv5bxbRq/P693WWXRFMcoOXB/tpP+XlveoH4J7uwIp0ByvgmYgBh1it48SZLXCisudOj sapEimJ2BrJAnAAaDcyDDymDi5Bb4E1iGAw4FXJJaXlAB+zIn1Mv0Bls0GMJto25SjpR tAvA== X-Received: by 10.224.79.74 with SMTP id o10mr18299146qak.6.1387572755894; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-1684.home.lan (pool-72-87-56-202.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net. [72.87.56.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r9sm8310570qey.19.2013.12.20.12.52.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:52:35 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:52:33 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D691810-3DD1-4899-9F63-E1713BD01840@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM" X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:52:37 -0000 Dave, You wrote: > What's in a name? AQM has been pretty thoroughly defined to equal > active queue *length* management and not packet scheduling. > Overloading "AQM" what cerowrt does is apt to cause even more > confusion in the field than it already does. We discussed using LBO as > a word but that appears hopelessly overloaded with leveraged buy out. >=20 > I go back to one I liked a while back: >=20 > Smart Queue Management. (SQM) >=20 > This got dissed on the aqm list too, but so far a viable alternative > TLA has not appeared. It's sufficiently different to hang a different > definition off of ("Smart queue management is an intelligent > combination of better packet scheduling (flow queuing) techniques > along with with active queue length management (aqm)=94) and=20 > Any ideas for a name for packet scheduling, prioritization, and active > queue management better than just "AQM", or "QoS"? >=20 > SQM "Smarter Queue Management" > CeroShaper > LBO Latency and Bandwidth Optimisation I was prepared to agree with =93SQM=94, and had written a long note = (below) when my brain uttered =93Intelligent Queue Management=94. I=92m = not convinced that one is better than the other=85 Rich =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The benefits of SQM =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Wikipedia sez=85 SQM may refer to: - Sociedad Qu=EDmica y Minera de Chile - a Chilean mining and chemical = enterprise - Software quality management - Spectrum quality management - Supplier Quality Management - Sensors Quality Management Inc. - provides unbiased evaluations of a = company's operations relating to issues of quality, service, cleanliness = and value - Sky Quality Meter, a device for measuring light pollution and also : S=E3o Miguel do Araguaia airport IATA code sqm may refer to : - square metre - Windows Live Messenger log file extension So it doesn=92t appear that there are any seriously conflicting uses of = that TLA=85 And I prefer =93Smart Queue Management=94 to =93Smarter Queue = Management=94. We=92ll leave to someone else to go out on the weak = branch and espouse =93Smarter queue management=94 and =93Smartest queue = management=94. (What comes after that? =93Smart and a half=94, = Smart**2"?) Rich=