* [Cerowrt-devel] getting more randomness by improving MIPS get_cycles()
@ 2013-09-08 19:04 Dave Taht
2013-09-09 15:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
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From: Dave Taht @ 2013-09-08 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openwrt-devel, cerowrt-devel
In light of the whole nsa hoo-ra (stuff like this)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117091380454742934025/posts/SDcoemc9V3J
Ted Tso has pointed out to me that apparently mips' does not have a working
generic get_cycles() call, but instead returns 0 in all cases.
e.g: In arch/mips/include/asm/timex.h:
typedef unsigned int cycles_t;
static inline cycles_t get_cycles(void)
{
return 0;
}
Um.....
get_cycles() is used in innumerable places in random.c.
This is double plus ungood... I am REALLY hoping I'm merely misreading
the code...
An example:
(see drivers/char/random.c for how often it is used)
/*
* Add device- or boot-specific data to the input and nonblocking
* pools to help initialize them to unique values.
*
* None of this adds any entropy, it is meant to avoid the
* problem of the nonblocking pool having similar initial state
* across largely identical devices.
*/
void add_device_randomness(const void *buf, unsigned int size)
{
unsigned long time = get_cycles() ^ jiffies;
...
So, what blocks having a working get_cycles in common mips architectures?
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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] getting more randomness by improving MIPS get_cycles()
2013-09-08 19:04 [Cerowrt-devel] getting more randomness by improving MIPS get_cycles() Dave Taht
@ 2013-09-09 15:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
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From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2013-09-09 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Taht; +Cc: openwrt-devel, cerowrt-devel
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:04:27 -0700
Dave Taht <dave.taht@bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> In light of the whole nsa hoo-ra (stuff like this)
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/117091380454742934025/posts/SDcoemc9V3J
>
> Ted Tso has pointed out to me that apparently mips' does not have a working
> generic get_cycles() call, but instead returns 0 in all cases.
>
> e.g: In arch/mips/include/asm/timex.h:
>
> typedef unsigned int cycles_t;
>
> static inline cycles_t get_cycles(void)
> {
> return 0;
> }
>
> Um.....
>
> get_cycles() is used in innumerable places in random.c.
>
> This is double plus ungood... I am REALLY hoping I'm merely misreading
> the code...
>
> An example:
>
> (see drivers/char/random.c for how often it is used)
>
> /*
> * Add device- or boot-specific data to the input and nonblocking
> * pools to help initialize them to unique values.
> *
> * None of this adds any entropy, it is meant to avoid the
> * problem of the nonblocking pool having similar initial state
> * across largely identical devices.
> */
>
> void add_device_randomness(const void *buf, unsigned int size)
> {
> unsigned long time = get_cycles() ^ jiffies;
>
> ...
>
> So, what blocks having a working get_cycles in common mips architectures?
In order to implement get_cycles() a high resolution hardware counter
with quick access is necessary.
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