From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCA8F21F1AA for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z10so7440275pdj.2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:43:47 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Uk6NmeUiu+Rq1jdjYxHdxrVzfG5+7gUq57JBVNKsELE=; b=OXiTrCDnwwM9AvRc6q0nhr38fPtninxfgLY0GlfE5BrNFEE0Dtc1x4w4Xiprq71UQ3 RVlVoHQSwWsVOHsDUPV+cRJhJespxIiOa8md7oU2WHvnZNFM++Nyyq0HcPlwOxHA9M7/ QW5Ac+SilKbWxmBCNn8REh0MNpLTdTf+/iKkoq77ACp38SQij+A1EEj/lwrt/aKRfamP u8JSvSKwdVjFwKhDBzqNrSNqT19WOyWjEP/qvwnaEpBiO5VHAEHp3CfXzeMSBsgwR3vt WYP5C9nCBKSbHIz19mdNXSFFLVJ4j6M6STBXDRe+2AgY/3gulW436rSmLSqJ7ruyTh/8 A7Ag== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmO4kZaINOx/egApMHDarbTa7W4Rpieny50reewC/Ls1YlxAPNJs4GGZIijv2jBTlU3gR9X X-Received: by 10.66.139.130 with SMTP id qy2mr30211451pab.73.1387323827758; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net (static-50-53-83-51.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net. [50.53.83.51]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ja5sm36561280pbc.14.2013.12.17.15.43.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:43:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:43:45 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Jim Gettys Message-ID: <20131217154345.0e91b65f@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> In-Reply-To: References: <52AF797E.6030600@imap.cc> <18972.1387302855@sandelman.ca> <1387319157.48330794@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:43:49 -0000 I concur with Jim. My observation is that in our house, upstairs the 5Ghz AP has low signal strength reported by the devices, and poor bandwidth. Could it be that the radiation pattern of the antenna in WDR3800 laying horizontally is different for each band. Maybe the 5Ghz band is more of a squashed donut?