From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net [64.139.1.69]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670D021F21C; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shuksan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802C4406062; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:01:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.3 To: aqm@ietf.org, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net From: Hal Murray Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:01:13 -0700 Message-Id: <20140429230113.802C4406062@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net> Cc: Hal Murray Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [aqm] the side effects of 330ms lag in the real world X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 23:01:14 -0000 > Also, what access method has 300 ms access latency, let alone 3 seconds? > None that I know of, the meaningful comparison would be ADSL2+ at around > 25ms and 3G at around 50-100ms. I have an old/slow 256Kbit SDSL link. I frequently see download bloat delays of over 3 seconds. I haven't seen 4, close, but not quite. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.