From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from cassarossa.samfundet.no (cassarossa.samfundet.no [IPv6:2001:67c:29f4::29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F05721F25D; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pannekake.samfundet.no ([2001:67c:29f4::50] ident=unknown) by cassarossa.samfundet.no with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WzWVp-0008VF-O6; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:36:14 +0200 Received: from sesse by pannekake.samfundet.no with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WzWVp-0000PS-FS; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:36:13 +0200 From: "Steinar H. Gunderson" To: cerowrt-devel , bloat Message-ID: <20140624193613.GA29531@sesse.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux 3.14.5-itk01 on a x86_64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:16:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?=5BBloat=5D__Dave_T=C3=A4ht__quoted_in_?= =?utf-8?q?the_ACLU_blog?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:36:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:36:13 +0200 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:36:18 -0000 On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:29:34PM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > Still, the points I made about congestion control, aqm and fair > queuing weren't made with the ACLU and I suppose I should go over > there to make those portions of my points, because the darn fast > lane/slow lane analogy is seriously flawed in general. Well, once you talk about QoS (as opposed to paid peering or colocation), it's not that bad. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/