Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project
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From: Chuck Anderson <cra@WPI.EDU>
To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Recording RF management info _and_ associated traffic?
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:03:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150125150304.GU18618@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1501250111030.19609@nftneq.ynat.uz>

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 01:39:32AM -0800, David Lang wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
> 
> >I want to make clear that I support dlang's design in the abstract... and
> >am just arguing because it is a slow day.
> 
> I welcome challenges to the design, it's how I improve things :-)
> 
> >On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:44 PM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
> >>On Sat, 24 Jan 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
> >>
> 
> to clarify, the chain of comments was
> 
> 1. instead of bridging I should route
> 
> 2. network manager would preserve the IPv4 address to prevent
> breaking established connections.
> 
> I was explaining how that can't work. If you are moving between
> different networks, each routed independently, they either need to
> have different address ranges (in which case the old IP just won't
> work), or they would each need to NAT to get to the outside (in
> which case the IP may stay the same, but the connections will break
> since the new router wouldn't have the NAT entries for the existing
> connections)

To keep your IP when roaming:

3. The old school way: use mobile IP or some other tunneling mechanism
   (or VPN) so you can keep your same IP.

4. Use a "virtual subnet" model similar to:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-03

The draft is focused on data centers and VM migration, but the problem
is the same with client migration/mobility.  I would argue that it is
even easier to "discover" the location of a client with Wi-Fi because
of the association/authentication handshake with the AP rather than
relying on a Gratuitous ARP/ND or LLDP, VSI, etc.

5. Use LISP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locator/Identifier_Separation_Protocol
http://lispmob.org/ (supported on OpenWRT)

Has anyone played with this?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-25 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-14  2:20 Richard Smith
2015-01-20 16:59 ` Rich Brown
2015-01-21 23:40   ` Richard Smith
2015-01-21 23:58     ` David Lang
2015-01-22  9:04       ` Richard Smith
2015-01-22  9:18         ` David Lang
2015-01-22 18:19           ` Richard Smith
2015-01-22 22:09             ` David Lang
2015-01-22 22:55               ` Roman Toledo Casabona
2015-01-24 14:59             ` dpreed
2015-01-24 15:30               ` Kelvin Edmison
2015-01-25  4:35               ` David Lang
2015-01-25  5:02                 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-25  5:04                   ` Dave Taht
2015-01-25  6:44                   ` David Lang
2015-01-25  7:06                     ` David Lang
     [not found]                     ` <CAA93jw64KjW-JjLxB3i_ZK348NCyJYSQACFO34MaUsBBWyZ+pA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-25  7:59                       ` Dave Taht
2015-01-25  9:39                       ` David Lang
2015-01-25 15:03                         ` Chuck Anderson [this message]
2015-01-25 20:17                 ` dpreed
2015-01-25 23:21                   ` Aaron Wood
2015-01-25 23:57                   ` David Lang
2015-01-26  1:51                     ` dpreed
2015-01-26  2:09                       ` David Lang
2015-01-26  4:33                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-26  4:44                           ` David Lang
2015-01-27  0:14                             ` dpreed
2015-01-27  0:23                               ` David Lang
2015-01-26  2:19                       ` Dave Taht
2015-01-26  2:43                         ` David Lang
2015-01-26  2:58                           ` Dave Taht
2015-01-26  3:17                             ` dpreed
2015-01-26  3:32                               ` David Lang
2015-01-26  3:45                               ` Dave Taht
2015-01-27  0:12                                 ` dpreed
2015-01-27  0:31                                   ` David Lang
2015-01-27  0:36                                   ` Dave Taht
2015-01-26  3:19                             ` David Lang
2015-01-26  4:25                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-26  4:39                       ` David Lang
2015-01-26 16:42                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-25  8:07             ` Outback Dingo
2015-01-30 16:14               ` Richard Smith

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