From: Chuck Anderson <cra@WPI.EDU>
To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Recording RF management info _and_ associated traffic?
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:03:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150125150304.GU18618@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1501250111030.19609@nftneq.ynat.uz>
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 01:39:32AM -0800, David Lang wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
>
> >I want to make clear that I support dlang's design in the abstract... and
> >am just arguing because it is a slow day.
>
> I welcome challenges to the design, it's how I improve things :-)
>
> >On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:44 PM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
> >>On Sat, 24 Jan 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
> >>
>
> to clarify, the chain of comments was
>
> 1. instead of bridging I should route
>
> 2. network manager would preserve the IPv4 address to prevent
> breaking established connections.
>
> I was explaining how that can't work. If you are moving between
> different networks, each routed independently, they either need to
> have different address ranges (in which case the old IP just won't
> work), or they would each need to NAT to get to the outside (in
> which case the IP may stay the same, but the connections will break
> since the new router wouldn't have the NAT entries for the existing
> connections)
To keep your IP when roaming:
3. The old school way: use mobile IP or some other tunneling mechanism
(or VPN) so you can keep your same IP.
4. Use a "virtual subnet" model similar to:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-03
The draft is focused on data centers and VM migration, but the problem
is the same with client migration/mobility. I would argue that it is
even easier to "discover" the location of a client with Wi-Fi because
of the association/authentication handshake with the AP rather than
relying on a Gratuitous ARP/ND or LLDP, VSI, etc.
5. Use LISP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locator/Identifier_Separation_Protocol
http://lispmob.org/ (supported on OpenWRT)
Has anyone played with this?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-25 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-14 2:20 Richard Smith
2015-01-20 16:59 ` Rich Brown
2015-01-21 23:40 ` Richard Smith
2015-01-21 23:58 ` David Lang
2015-01-22 9:04 ` Richard Smith
2015-01-22 9:18 ` David Lang
2015-01-22 18:19 ` Richard Smith
2015-01-22 22:09 ` David Lang
2015-01-22 22:55 ` Roman Toledo Casabona
2015-01-24 14:59 ` dpreed
2015-01-24 15:30 ` Kelvin Edmison
2015-01-25 4:35 ` David Lang
2015-01-25 5:02 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-25 5:04 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-25 6:44 ` David Lang
2015-01-25 7:06 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <CAA93jw64KjW-JjLxB3i_ZK348NCyJYSQACFO34MaUsBBWyZ+pA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-25 7:59 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-25 9:39 ` David Lang
2015-01-25 15:03 ` Chuck Anderson [this message]
2015-01-25 20:17 ` dpreed
2015-01-25 23:21 ` Aaron Wood
2015-01-25 23:57 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 1:51 ` dpreed
2015-01-26 2:09 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 4:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-26 4:44 ` David Lang
2015-01-27 0:14 ` dpreed
2015-01-27 0:23 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 2:19 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-26 2:43 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 2:58 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-26 3:17 ` dpreed
2015-01-26 3:32 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 3:45 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-27 0:12 ` dpreed
2015-01-27 0:31 ` David Lang
2015-01-27 0:36 ` Dave Taht
2015-01-26 3:19 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 4:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-26 4:39 ` David Lang
2015-01-26 16:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-25 8:07 ` Outback Dingo
2015-01-30 16:14 ` Richard Smith
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