[Cerowrt-devel] three new internet drafts regarding SCE

[Cerowrt-devel] three new internet drafts regarding SCE

[Dave Taht]

IETF 105 runs from July 20-27th in Montreal.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/agenda/

tsvwg meets thursday morning 10-12, and friday 12:20-

Remote attendance via videconferencing tools is straightforward. There
are of course dozens of other wg meetings of possible interest, in my
case, I'm still tracking babel's progress through the ietf, in
particular, and I always try to
check in on iccrg, also in case anything interesting comes up.

Since not all members of our mailing lists are on the relevant tsvwg
or tcpmwg  mailing lists, here are some drafts
from those working on the SCE front (I'm not, but I do read things)
for aqm and transport enhancements.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-grimes-tcpmwg-tcpsce-00

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-sce-00

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heist-tsvwg-sce-one-and-two-flow-tests-00

I would have liked it if the the actual scripts, & flent data files
were published and referenced in this last draft. (I think the
pictures were published on some other email thread (?), and I look
forward to the slides) My own
(eventual) contribution to this work might be on the wifi front, but
neither l4s or sce are baked enough yet to bother trying,
IMHO. My analysis of the battlemesh fq_codel + ecn over wifi data I
hope to finish this week, but I'll find an other outlet for
publication. (smallest subset of observations is that we can reduce
the codel target to 6ms on wifi networks that have powersave disabled,
and that serious 802.11e queue use still massively sucks. details to
come later)

There are many, many, many other drafts in progress in tsvwg, of note might be:

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-lld-00.txt

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-nqb-02.txt

In addition to the perpetually revised l4s related ones.



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Tel: 1-831-205-9740

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Ecn-sane] three new internet drafts regarding SCE

[Luca Muscariello]

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Remote attendance is free of charge but you have to register to be able to
access.

https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf105/remotereg.py



On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> IETF 105 runs from July 20-27th in Montreal.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/agenda/
>
> tsvwg meets thursday morning 10-12, and friday 12:20-
>
> Remote attendance via videconferencing tools is straightforward. There
> are of course dozens of other wg meetings of possible interest, in my
> case, I'm still tracking babel's progress through the ietf, in
> particular, and I always try to
> check in on iccrg, also in case anything interesting comes up.
>
> Since not all members of our mailing lists are on the relevant tsvwg
> or tcpmwg  mailing lists, here are some drafts
> from those working on the SCE front (I'm not, but I do read things)
> for aqm and transport enhancements.
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-grimes-tcpmwg-tcpsce-00
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-sce-00
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heist-tsvwg-sce-one-and-two-flow-tests-00
>
> I would have liked it if the the actual scripts, & flent data files
> were published and referenced in this last draft. (I think the
> pictures were published on some other email thread (?), and I look
> forward to the slides) My own
> (eventual) contribution to this work might be on the wifi front, but
> neither l4s or sce are baked enough yet to bother trying,
> IMHO. My analysis of the battlemesh fq_codel + ecn over wifi data I
> hope to finish this week, but I'll find an other outlet for
> publication. (smallest subset of observations is that we can reduce
> the codel target to 6ms on wifi networks that have powersave disabled,
> and that serious 802.11e queue use still massively sucks. details to
> come later)
>
> There are many, many, many other drafts in progress in tsvwg, of note
> might be:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-lld-00.txt
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-nqb-02.txt
>
> In addition to the perpetually revised l4s related ones.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dave Täht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-205-9740
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> Ecn-sane mailing list
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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Ecn-sane] three new internet drafts regarding SCE

[Rodney W. Grimes]

> IETF 105 runs from July 20-27th in Montreal.
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/agenda/
> 
> tsvwg meets thursday morning 10-12, and friday 12:20-
> 
> Remote attendance via videconferencing tools is straightforward. There
> are of course dozens of other wg meetings of possible interest, in my
> case, I'm still tracking babel's progress through the ietf, in
> particular, and I always try to
> check in on iccrg, also in case anything interesting comes up.
> 
> Since not all members of our mailing lists are on the relevant tsvwg
> or tcpmwg  mailing lists, here are some drafts
> from those working on the SCE front (I'm not, but I do read things)
> for aqm and transport enhancements.
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-grimes-tcpmwg-tcpsce-00
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-sce-00
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heist-tsvwg-sce-one-and-two-flow-tests-00

There is actually a 4th related draft which is a new Q algorithm:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-lightweight-fair-queueing

> I would have liked it if the the actual scripts, & flent data files
> were published and referenced in this last draft. (I think the
> pictures were published on some other email thread (?), and I look
> forward to the slides)

We are working towards this, part of the problem is the tools
and the data was evolving at a pace faster than we could publish them.

We have now validated that an independent person can build,
install and run a SCE capable linux kernel avaliable at:

	https://github.com/chromi/sce

Note that this is evolving code, so expect to see updates,
as well as complete notes on new sysctl's avaliable to
enable/disable features for testing purposes.

> My own
> (eventual) contribution to this work might be on the wifi front, but
> neither l4s or sce are baked enough yet to bother trying,
> IMHO. My analysis of the battlemesh fq_codel + ecn over wifi data I
> hope to finish this week, but I'll find an other outlet for
> publication. (smallest subset of observations is that we can reduce
> the codel target to 6ms on wifi networks that have powersave disabled,
> and that serious 802.11e queue use still massively sucks. details to
> come later)
> 
> There are many, many, many other drafts in progress in tsvwg, of note might be:
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-lld-00.txt
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-nqb-02.txt
> 
> In addition to the perpetually revised l4s related ones.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Dave T?ht
> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-205-9740

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Ecn-sane] three new internet drafts regarding SCE

[Dave Taht]

While I'm catching up on drafts and fiddling with wifi, I couldn't
help but notice this one, which adds delay sensitivity to cubic in the
context of 5g.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-cc-for-4g-5g-02