I flashed 3.10.24-8 on spare 3800, and put it into use today. (I can always flip the old unit back) I was previously running 3.8, I think. It had developped an issue where I could no longer ssh in, but the web interface still worked. (This made it really hard to figure out why I couldn't ssh. I tried putting dropbear with various options into files that the web interface could edit, but failed) I did this upgrade by taking my config backup and restoring it on the new unit. There was a problem with /etc/config/wireless, where the radio0/radio1 designation has gone from, I guess, mac address locators to using PCI locators. Great, I edited the file, and tried again. Radio1 came up fine, but radio0 did not until I removed the '' from some parameters. (really, I just pasted the working wifi-device radio0 definition in, leaving my wifi-iface definitions) I had two other problems: /var/lib/misc did not exist, so dnsmasq did not start. /tftp did not exist, (my config has a file in there for an Annex2000) and it did not start. I think that dnsmasq, being critical, should cope better. I'll try to submit patches on that. I thought that Xmas afternoon would be a good time to do this upgrade (people shouldn't be doing computers, should they?) but I forgot that people in the house wanted to Skype to distant relatives... but that's working now. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [