From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr2.cc.vt.edu (omr2.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8400:0:33:fb76:806e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80E3F21FBE3; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr1.cc.vt.edu (mr1.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2001:468:c80:2105:0:277:40de:506c]) by omr2.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t8UKpgGI031459; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:51:42 -0400 Received: from auth1.smtp.vt.edu (auth1.smtp.vt.edu [198.82.161.152] (may be forged)) by mr1.cc.vt.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t8UKpbrY011304; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:51:42 -0400 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([IPv6:2001:468:c80:2103:c013:a846:19ac:7baa]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth1.smtp.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t8UKpaQD016011 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:51:37 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6+dev To: Christopher Waid From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu In-Reply-To: References: <49d53a3e-b7a0-4069-a87b-d9778bb8a229@reed.com> <16684.1443643019@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1443646296_2322P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:51:36 -0400 Message-ID: <21167.1443646296@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mr1.cc.vt.edu Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, fcc@lists.prplfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [FCC] some comments from elsewhere on the lockdown X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:52:08 -0000 --==_Exmh_1443646296_2322P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:11:38 -0400, Christopher Waid said: > > Apparently, they were of the opinion that the mere fact that I might > > die of a heart attack a year after distributing something doesn't > > excuse me from complying.) > > I don't know if it does excuse you from complying, but I say good luck > to the person trying to get it enforced. They could quite possibly hassle the executor of my estate if they were sufficiently determined. But given that abandonware (both software and hardware) is a big chunk of the problem, we really *do* need to address the problem of companies that can't provide patches because they've gone under. Possibly a requirement that they open-source the hardware/software if possible? (That's another can-o-worms - consider that a big chunk of why NVidia doesn't open-source their proprietary graphics drivers is because there's a lot of OpenGL-related patents and trade secrets that Microsoft bought when there was the big fire sale when SGI got out of the graphics market - so it's quite possible that a vendor *can't* open-source it when they go under due to licensing issues...) --==_Exmh_1443646296_2322P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQIVAwUBVgxLWAdmEQWDXROgAQLjSRAAk/7UnJyM4ASojZvl2j1cyHwW7yoIiz3n mKZz9LUkY3DS0//Ml+veauQYIHlxQJQmHWmGX/pyeUoBurJzlGtEbzdECo8bHcEN F/qRcqOa/P8iz0EMINLhJqUplhzU8jd7Xy6TrDPn+3LEFkPPEuzHvOhoKWnzj16+ AYCVAWkgSasX1rx2wFdq0UpIyucV3vExzNeN7zE27xuY2ZMlv1a0wUPOPkxKoCF7 r3+/PRxHTMwNwpfEiMmPCqk1hLqh2dqR9WQh945KBlROX/+2ydCHRyJ77Felezgd ijHCRp+LHbF/U8j1djfhTjSw/+u02wRCsQYcozgGEtG+jlCqkZ5Bc5g1NDiNVPUt 53FnVfpZ5NqzC3cFJ2iYoqPSUDfwi9q3GxUxXLWZGv1l4/Jb/rf3qWJ9PSWCqL0C e4QclVFfkC6mbkp3cSyp02PSr3bVm0owybT/4+U+XroaYpGQSQqkO0l228uBzc4Y arW9tWroOmYpA4/CG0/z5ZebpZR1ou9nLOfoB7Daz4U4u3LkuUztlPyGFdIaOkYY yc0Bj/vFL9vB9YJASpoaw5E++TPcWZZNa51CzWgfqtnbyf1rID6o27jvjk4OsRTO 2bxT0Eg+sRr3T/eadcnr0znRZYlYCTyayBDbuBbX16+GZ2JYyYvRXKdV9pfV35Nm BlRLGmatpe0= =XQML -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1443646296_2322P--