From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C24393CB35; Fri, 1 May 2020 18:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37DA38983; Fri, 1 May 2020 18:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B015B6F; Fri, 1 May 2020 18:07:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Sergey Fedorov , Sebastian Moeller , Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat In-Reply-To: References: <05410663-5E50-4CF5-8ADE-3BBB985E32B1@gmx.de> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 25.1.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 22:07:20 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain {Do I need all the lists?} Sergey Fedorov via Bloat wrote: > Just a note that I have a plan to separate the loaded latency into > upload/download. It's not great UX now they way it's implemented. > The timeline view is a bit more nuanced, in the spirit of the simplistic > UX, but I've been thinking on a good way to show that for super users as > well. > Two latency numbers - that's more user friendly, we want the general user > to understand the meaning. And latency under load is much easier than > bufferbloat. > As a side note, if our backend is decent, I'm curious what are the backends > for the speed tests that exist that are great :) Does it find/use my nearest Netflix cache? As others asked, it would be great if we could put the settings into a URL, and having the "latency under upload" is probably the most important number that people trying to videoconference need to know. (it's also the thing that they can mostly directly/cheaply fix) > SERGEY FEDOROV > Director of Engineering > sfedorov@netflix.com > 121 Albright Way | Los Gatos, CA 95032 Very happy that you are looped in here. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAl6snZcACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVzwQgAjUvjQlvVIZIc1HJVvYMxcCpw2LDagdNAjBhjFvqWTih331mmrXASeD+A 0aEtlwKSM2BcmDlhKQHJ8S4Me2UMEI/mk/X8eTFx0eabD5Ls/RFY5O95Mxe4IQrQ 5FDuevnX4PMIn7Epp8KWAGy+U4SmB2pHT1y4qeW9ZU7z8RTyHBMcw+kBfoRD3FSw eZp1xBr5zKSOlihPws1DbtnsjifUearbXubk94VLwxiAMLr4avVJVE8QZm56Y/6e f+DO1C45NbJAlc+6HaxrfV8m4IZhy+ZXDPv40wn7tdU5ajPsfGls1dPX1yZimvRg QycdXFe1nybmC5TqHfZ6nqSigdk4NA== =g96L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--