Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> Personally, I think it's time to move "security" out of the military >> sector of government.. > I think we need some kind of international cooperation body that > develops guidelines that vendors can then slap their "approved > by"-sticker on the box by complying to these guidelines. Problem here There are multiple efforts: I'm involved with this one: https://www.iotsecurityfoundation.org/best-practice-guidelines/ (and there are more documents in progress) There are other efforts, and there are attempts to coordinate, and there is interest in the testing labs (EULabs, UL, and others) in doing evaluations with prices from $ to $$$$$. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [