From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr1.cc.vt.edu (omr1.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2001:468:c80:2105:0:2fc:76e3:30de]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 517C921F629; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr3.cc.vt.edu (mr3.cc.vt.edu [198.82.141.68] (may be forged)) by omr1.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s6PMTXnC028801; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:29:33 -0400 Received: from auth1.smtp.vt.edu (auth1.smtp.vt.edu [198.82.161.152] (may be forged)) by mr3.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s6PMTRUF018920; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:29:32 -0400 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([IPv6:2001:468:c80:2103:1178:9af6:f669:3164]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth1.smtp.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s6PMTR5q014879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:29:27 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6+dev To: David Lang In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:20:53 -0700." From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <03292B76-5273-4912-BB18-90E95C16A9F5@pnsol.com> <66FF8435-C8A5-4596-B43A-EC12D537D49E@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1406327367_2052P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:29:27 -0400 Message-ID: <25037.1406327367@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mr3.cc.vt.edu Cc: Neil Davies , cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Check out www.speedof.me - no Flash X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:29:35 -0000 --==_Exmh_1406327367_2052P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:20:53 -0700, David Lang said: > cost of bandwidth for this is just something to get someone to pay for (ideally > someone with tons of bandwidth already who won't notice this sort of test, even > if there are a few going on at once.) Ask U of Wisconsin how that worked out for them when Netgear shipped some new boxes.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse#NETGEAR_and_the_University_of_Wisconsin.E2.80.93Madison It's one thing to come up with a solution that works for the 300 (total wild guess) people on this list. But to be useful for field deployable, it really needs to be able to handle a "every Comcast customer in a major metro area", because we *do* want this stuff to work well when this makes it into the CPE that Comcast gives every new customer, right? :) --==_Exmh_1406327367_2052P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQIVAwUBU9LaRgdmEQWDXROgAQKhVQ//agRnQl/ELWI4djhGi68pB22RxZieotHG V0/fwssUlM52ecAVW1UVpudEQXLB9QUtMIRbXzK9sHrEti/04V3sEhntgBuHDNK6 Ob2eImU1/F3nHZ505hRM04SCA/BLuqmvoLepxPPblJsQzLKM8d/vDmqHq2E5eaQR BHdP/w/6GusztWvWzWnkHBC6Y588aNUa3YvYy+azY8+RiclRTV0D8o3bgJXSAXRi LLVaURxL0XMPxIihHZKxUqC/HYAoKoXDm/OTC2vWwHf7R9wnI6aQvFCFyxbZe2oE YC/T2P+gHOH38aVwKr0cDYa13EJjCmZv+rXVrqsYfkBr4NajSB8bkHeqWSdKQXZ1 xrJoBIaQTtUGOJZvRZWDVxpFyrDHtnvZVYrypnmu0AMFjYQNX9622iOeKei0W0c2 6a9iez5F5cmNnNQxAo3q6AUNKpQbmQh9rB2tEjIttw4Hp9t6Et/4L+xG/YXr5JES UQwvn4Ccv3MxT1dqm1yIKIgUY1vnGwn0AaxMZCQ/JTsknO1VD7+ixVkrIdKSyrHe RJs6qc0HUaVNRK6uRLWuV4NM2McJ5oTSWFhHh0zoaIKsm42ve5rnSCiRoufrdaXL GY2YNzLwlTk8GapiKxj0jIDhJACk42Wd5TvFfyYb6WMYHbJtSJcM0NmQCWsGOfJC Dw/Tqgx8CKM= =NZEo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1406327367_2052P--