From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x244.google.com (mail-lf0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BBC03B2A4; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 14:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x244.google.com with SMTP id j13-v6so15942096lfb.13; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:33:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+n00a9mEE8GOHPrYpjzuYuoiSYyy2vgcBw9AV1n2y9w=; b=FZsFQ+0tUSWbc8v8kIXX8XMU+YEizRRXBQGm8ApdnbNQ73Bffi6TRejtQROfPrBy/o Lyy3jdpKnNGhEUam6P9dLG8nEzxBWJ47UrX8X4sFM4XrecC+h4I593Ijz1XL3GFfTD26 Tc1gG2OW6phfUvk5ot0kXldXPLBRlwdFoLQOwUupQSBaUTirDyAKNpfCJ3cpRP0yGxbZ zSBr9G/hcHbDGXBdMM5MU4G/wX9NlzI7MzloLqei1agtyUOlKbiRNg4eQoIidCTemLv1 SRiroVEjv6ZIVr8OiEqbRm9KldK3+dlUtYHtPLO5frVxlKTHJ84Q21DiCeHWqCbBGqak zkNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+n00a9mEE8GOHPrYpjzuYuoiSYyy2vgcBw9AV1n2y9w=; b=AUEbNtTVwHYEMqRbbzHiyd7WSJTZ1mjue2SaslaIy1q5Af/gEWvUztvtsbtAI68kNv 5K8omC3hZqE6CY6WkfdiVE6qo9WBaXOjh2DwbmQKOY44+NfsJwR+UEt7SWFEDmuKo8NZ pndbNCr1jQ8z6/8lF6LxbD5cQGnaPOF0sbnQ+pR3iE4TRLGi0ds/lXxnSHD2fZqR7iU+ e1XSxjOcyzX5opS4xjzhRtMCQFfHSxX0Djv06v7CcLwfR1qBB1iJlvv93nAV3t4Um3ie Sw1VrR8ziSBmNVr/tVGarhdS8kh9T4tTs7t/rVzLxzInkXEQvLAKrc++m1viJ1OrfPmy 7bLA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0XkCAwE56x+uGlbyJrg0JP+H8rNW4PZ/DrZtMpS/fNWN+N1IKp ZHgXlslnIaHHYvnEccIW9ZQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIZ57pT0M7AmLv7pgnIdxmHoCcNor2KF6uUdOWNGfa2LW8mdti0stphJg63bqB7Xqb+Hel3FA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:890a:: with SMTP id l10-v6mr1785862lfd.117.1529087607006; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.103] (83-245-233-202-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.233.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u9-v6sm1586611lff.55.2018.06.15.11.33.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 21:33:20 +0300 Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <256A6D26-7EDF-4E4C-9341-3BCAE51F0A90@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] sqm deployment X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 18:33:28 -0000 > On 15 Jun, 2018, at 9:03 pm, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > What would it take to get more reviewers asking the bufferbloat fixes = question? Recently, LinusTechTips did a video showing how to "increase your = internet speed up to 4x for free in 5 minutes". =46rom the title, it = sounds too good to be true - but LTT is actually somewhat reputable = (though he *does* have a reputation for accidentally dropping expensive = hardware while showing it off for the camera). But it turns out he's talking about CloudFlare's new public DNS = resolver, at the anycast addresses of 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1, and he's = perfectly aware that what it does is improve the *latency* of typical = website access, and has no effect on what he calls "YouTube quality", = which "relies on bandwidth". So he seems like the sort of personality to be receptive to bufferbloat = education. There are a few other reviewers who are probably capable of = being educated, as well, though they're less aware up-front. - Jonathan Morton