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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt 3.3.8-17: nice latency improvements, some issues with bind
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:21:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26683.1345598489@sandelman.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZR1YBzTWfj-LBDY5qXu8UYj9gkix+z5MqaS0D3uuHdbNSp6w@mail.gmail.com>


>>>>> "Maciej" == Maciej Soltysiak <maciej@soltysiak.com> writes:
    >> Good idea, but you need DNS to find that server, and you need
    >> time to do DNSSEC.

    Maciej> How about this:
    Maciej> 1) do a 1 time `host time.nist.gov 8.8.8.8` and feed that to NTP config file
    Maciej> 2) make NTP get time from the IP of time.nist.gov resolved from step 1
    Maciej> 3) start bind with dnssec

Sure, you could do this.

There is no significant security advantage of doing this, vs starting
bind with DNSSEC time validation disabled.  A malicious attacker who
wants to attack you also controls the answer that 8.8.8.8 returns, and 
also controls the NTP answer on port 123.  Bad guys owns your uplink.
It's as easy as plugging a *WRT box in front of yours, or any place
upstream. (if you are paranoid, you are paranoid)

Or turn off DNSSEC validation until you have some notion of time.
That way, you wouldn't claim to have done validation.


-- 
Michael Richardson
-at the cottage-


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-23 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-13  6:08 [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt 3.3.8-17 is released Dave Taht
2012-08-13 16:06 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2012-08-13 16:20   ` Dave Taht
2012-08-15 17:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-15 22:53   ` dpreed
2012-08-15 22:57     ` William Katsak
2012-08-16  4:54       ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-16 11:08         ` William Katsak
2012-08-16 17:02           ` dpreed
2012-08-20 18:17             ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-16  4:51     ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-16  4:58       ` Dave Taht
2012-08-16  6:09         ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-20 18:13         ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-16  4:08   ` Dave Taht
2012-08-16  5:15     ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-20 18:24     ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-21  2:33       ` dpreed
2012-08-21  2:44         ` Marchon
2012-08-21  5:28           ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-22 18:23             ` dpreed
2012-08-22 18:54               ` Dave Taht
2012-08-22 19:23                 ` Kenneth Finnegan
2012-08-22 20:44                   ` Dave Taht
2012-08-21  5:23         ` Sebastian Moeller
2012-08-17  8:52 ` [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt 3.3.8-17: nice latency improvements, some issues with bind Török Edwin
2012-08-17 18:05   ` Dave Taht
2012-08-17 19:05     ` Török Edwin
2012-08-17 19:52       ` Dave Taht
2012-08-17 20:13         ` Török Edwin
2012-08-18 20:16         ` Michael Richardson
2012-08-20 20:16           ` david
2012-08-20 20:41             ` George Lambert
2012-08-20 20:48               ` david
2012-08-20 21:27                 ` George Lambert
2012-08-20 23:19               ` Michael Richardson
2012-08-21 22:03                 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2012-08-21 22:31                   ` George Lambert
2012-08-22  1:21                   ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2012-08-18  9:38     ` Török Edwin
2012-08-18 10:20       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
2012-08-18 17:07       ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2012-08-25 13:56         ` Török Edwin
2012-08-25 18:09           ` Dave Taht

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