From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 606413B29D; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 00:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-laptop (unknown [10.2.0.162]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554EB107C14; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 21:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 21:09:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: =?UTF-8?Q?Valdis_Kl=C4=93tnieks?= cc: Dave Taht , Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , Leonard Kleinrock , Bob McMahon , "David P. Reed" , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net, codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel , bloat , Ben Greear In-Reply-To: <257851.1632110422@turing-police> Message-ID: <2760o61s-408q-4613-r840-3sq96s8q1s1@ynat.uz> References: <1625188609.32718319@apps.rackspace.com> <989de0c1-e06c-cda9-ebe6-1f33df8a4c24@candelatech.com> <1625773080.94974089@apps.rackspace.com> <1625859083.09751240@apps.rackspace.com> <257851.1632110422@turing-police> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="===============7217231120676519930==" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 04:09:57 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --===============7217231120676519930== Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 20 Sep 2021, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:21:56 -0700, Dave Taht said: >> what actually happens during a web page load, > > I'm pretty sure that nobody actually understands that anymore, in any > more than handwaving levels. This is my favorite interview question, it's amazing and saddning at the answers that I get, even from supposedly senior security and networking people. David Lang --===============7217231120676519930== Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: <55sp560-p443-81oo-742r-n6qs32rr01n@ynat.uz> Content-Description: Content-Disposition: INLINE X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KQmxvYXQgbWFp bGluZyBsaXN0CkJsb2F0QGxpc3RzLmJ1ZmZlcmJsb2F0Lm5ldApodHRwczovL2xpc3RzLmJ1ZmZl cmJsb2F0Lm5ldC9saXN0aW5mby9ibG9hdAo= --===============7217231120676519930==--