From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A1D921F309 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 17:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id rd18so3655597iec.1 for ; Sun, 02 Mar 2014 17:49:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=6BGnfJkqjDPy1dXpixV0MIbxvZZWn+KRHHbH3rxNakk=; b=n5B9ZNWZFA104jDmikIpsAnemdhSYrSDeFxNEToO9wMQ+oiEuxU770tUuWuJlr2Tjs tA6i6h+NxjxaSQAgnr7WDVqN+l7VNIslC2YgONB9rYE6u0QyiBWcDShJ/iKGDSjjcYh9 mv0GBrROliK3ojTaGRy+WqAOOdfaB+bazMFi2yvXf6Gf+xiLecaYiCPrsnZ86JhbMU1D azzpnF90MXgjakVFlGnVwI2J7idk2mW6IwhfmoXfX6c+bLo60+yEqKSFDffpHabcFxYA tL5mq2w4X2v0Ikw/HWf2BEOeZ6YPTUaZuEvgilQuEg6QkDuFOYexVESBLBaHH4SZY6qO vArA== X-Received: by 10.50.111.79 with SMTP id ig15mr19253868igb.14.1393811360738; Sun, 02 Mar 2014 17:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-4004.home.lan (d-ptld-bng1-70-16-218-239.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net. [70.16.218.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v2sm34248451igk.7.2014.03.02.17.49.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Mar 2014 17:49:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 20:49:08 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3C58F2F0-60C0-4EC3-A45F-6895227DC889@gmail.com> References: <5EC471C4-64B9-4D83-AB78-5219E2090886@gmail.com> <78561C59-590A-421E-A92D-7B93B084A6AA@gmail.com> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Cc: cerowrt-devel Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16 X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 01:49:21 -0000 Dave, > Target 30ms would be interesting. 30+ % packet loss on this test (and > your link is still operable!) Wait. How can you detect the packet loss from the data I sent along? > At your speed range the behavior of the tcp upload is governed by the > initial window size more than anything else. I doubt the > mac adjusts that properly so it keeps hammering away at it... my > concern from looking at your upload graphs was that you were > actually getting hammered so hard you were actually going through RTO > (receive timeout) on the uploads. Yuck. That would be bad. re: Wireshark. I'll try to get it soon. Thanks. Rich