From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82f.google.com (mail-qt1-x82f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 673793B29E for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 06:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x82f.google.com with SMTP id f12so14113702qtq.4 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:from:to:cc:references:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nT5K66BQ2B5xYqPkp7Ju1olJk0krlyRCq8wagZHotH8=; b=sLzUWnDog8KjaW2AGtJ75nQh+6Whlk37xvp/Vk6plJTUJ3rX8fZjytz7VrDe7Lgs9m OBEqT4lWQRslRMwXAcpMBBwPqkDOCKb0Vemsb70Jzhq6/CuPA5qdvc236GunYxvrgDfz P5iA1GuKIkUsmArpuC21v8C7LqSGeoylpZXDimmtql9ghpoE0PtFlMa6TXF6baz0iz2S 8blyzDblrXkXjR+yIE3racOSwB2G4eN4pwktLKGDMxTvSUsevFLfqpZbPsvS8uis8dKg fsHvx0XYdG2YEkLWskG+Ejzr1F96V/H4MDQ4ismhcB+FniRl9J6EsHy4kjeveU1ZKKrX sCeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:to:cc:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nT5K66BQ2B5xYqPkp7Ju1olJk0krlyRCq8wagZHotH8=; b=V2nYxTUYJlSF3lqIIz2uKdtUTBemwbXglaZ7YuGy03qSaK0LX7zBOKo+J7A8b51FCb 8bsHgwsQzG0UZiKr0gxY7sqMrnWurpob8vLlgsV3FYdYQ77Bnx3V+TlMBbjJoPerwzmC I91viXcUZvqhL/YnCbejw/+G60ORZFVEOjXfPy9Ttj6T0G27csGK67U6ft5gNankx0nc +s9/tnW/Z5enz+gjQWWj08/w/JMbidcXlnW4yxzO9/leMXWDMO6VdGlhonRqP7cIn+H+ npX9Fsoruqc9DJOW0CpRp5/7A2PIIo63vy3JVYAdu4HW6NntsfcIEhID0qOQs+LvAn8+ TpaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5324eeF2gcBPpdY64TMXZdrGrapg8c+22mpMLz+3GzZIFEAuuC3I ymuvvdoRjqk+OTK3JFPaAz0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxLfrj3GPU82leEOm+5YdOKQwY0fmPlbCNMgz9NaQ4i2cgwZG/jWR583QX0o4MkCYGg3yPWqA== X-Received: by 2002:aed:33a4:: with SMTP id v33mr1804602qtd.324.1617187970622; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 03:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Wastelandia.local ([2601:401:500:1218:8491:2a84:6678:2c6b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j30sm1085922qtv.90.2021.03.31.03.52.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Mar 2021 03:52:50 -0700 (PDT) From: William Allen Simpson To: cerowrt-devel Cc: Karl Auerbach , Dave Taht References: <20210331025052.GA10360@mail.taht.net> Message-ID: <3be5a2c5-60a3-5374-c5ae-845013882324@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 06:52:48 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: geeks, internet X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:52:51 -0000 Self-correction: Turns out that my mail archives had a previous post here 2 years ago mentioning internet-history, and the announcement on end2end-interest list back on Fri, 20 Jul 2001. But I'd never read either message. In retrospect, a sad mistake on my part. On 3/31/21 6:39 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Thanks.  I didn't know about the internet-history mailing list. > If I survive my covid vaccination today, I'll join it. > (My father died within 4 hours of his 1st Moderna dose.) > > Strongly agree with Karl Auerbach.  I've had the opportunity of > living with a (now former) Member of Congress for 20+ years. > > As I've said many times, all human interaction involves politics. > We Internauts designing and implementing standards are also > involved in politics, but are very bad at it. > > > On 3/31/21 12:17 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> I note I really like the internet history mailing list. >>